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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Former linguistics grad student here: The meaning of "literal" is changing, and sentences like "That guy is literally 500 years old" are correct.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

[Waves from the other hill] I will never accept that usage of "literal" as correct.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Sees you from a few hills away: Oh my gosh we’re literally right next to each other! 😜

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes. Ling PhD here -- after teaching for 10+ years, the thing most people consistently do not understand about language is: the dictionary does not define what words mean. Dictionaries at best are a representation of what words meant at one time, and those meanings change quickly and pervasively enough that there is constantly a non-zero* number of words for which the dictionary is already wrong.

*in actuality it's probably significantly higher than what is connotated by "non-zero"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, this is the excuse I use too when I mess up the pronunciation of a word and people have an issue with it. They understood the meaning so the communication was successful which is the point.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

As a fellow linguistics student here, completely agree. I randomly get those 'grammar nazis' like "doesnt that sort of stuff upset you?" like nahh man that stuff is fascinating! Don't lump me in with you, pleaseee.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I agree and will take it further. We don't even need to posit a change in the meaning of the word, we need only assume that when people use the word literally, they do not mean the word "literally" literally, they mean it figuratively.

Who says you have to use the word "literally" literally? You don't have to say the word "loudly" loudly!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So, what's the new word for what “literal” used to mean?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly, it’s also “literally”. Humans are complex lol.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Back when I was in grade school, there were kids saying "as long as you know what I mean, it doesn't matter". If a word means two different/conflicting things, how can we possibly know what you mean? See also: bimonthly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

@KidDogDad

@thrawn21

How, then, would somebody be able to convey that somebody is literally 500 years old?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This makes me irrationally mildly upset.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Do people actually use it that way anymore though? I haven't heard anybody do it in a long time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I haven't heard anyone say it like that in literally, like, 500 years!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I hear it all the time in my circles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Haha good point. Come to think of it I haven’t heard it in a while, but I’m also not exactly running in circles where it would be used frequently.