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Fat shaming? On Lemmy? I expected better.
edit: better fat shaming, I mean.
Fat shaming? Man can't play his fucking Nintendo I feel for him
Lemmy is on the Internet. You expected better from the Internet?
why would you expect something like that??
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although all forms of prejudice and hatred are terrible, the online anti-fat hate just bugs so much.
it's so common, accepted, and arbitrary
i mean, at least with racism there's some kind of stupid "reasoning" behind it. some notion that "others" are a threat, and tribal nonsense.
but just hating on overweight people is so... pointless...
anyways, i expect the banning of r/fatpeoplehate and the like has sent some troglodytes over here.
but, if the instance doesn't do something, theyll get defederated
You might say the problem is too big to contain
why are you holding back all your racist jokes ?
I know a great Bulgarian joke
That sub was banned like 10 years ago. Lemmy didn't exist.
The reasoning is that being fat is something you can do about whereas race is not.
I’m not advocating being an asshole but, as a former fat guy, I can say that a little shame can be a powerful motivator.
A little shame can be a motivator if you're a mentally healthy person. But if you're the kind of person who deals with a lot of stress and shame because of their life or how they are raised, which is a common cause of obesity, then a little more shame can be a straw that breaks the camel's back and makes it worse.
Very true, but it’s also important to have a sense of humour about yourself and people have to take some responsibility for their own lives. I always tell myself, “the easy solution to not looking fat in pictures is to not be fat.”
Also, not being fat is proven to improve your mental health and cognitive abilities, so there’s kind of a double-edged sword there.
You're right, people could benefit from losing weight. That's why you shouldn't fat shame strangers. You'll probably increase their feelings of shame and make them fatter. If you know someone and that they have a good sense of humour, then it's fine. But most people don't have a good sense of humour, and especially most fat people don't have a good history with being called fat. You can't make someone's sense of humour improve by insulting them. That's like saying "the beatings will continue until morale improves".
It's all well and good to wish people were better, but there's no way you can achieve that by expecting them to already be perfect. We live in a universe governed by the laws of causality. Free will can only take someone as far as the strength of their will. You need to think about what's realistic.
Agreed 100%. I’ll make fun of myself and my friends for getting fat, but not random people…. unless they’re assholes too. 🤷🏻♂️
But also some people push the idea that being fat isn’t detrimental to their health and that should be challenged.
I wasn’t trying to say I condone this post, just explaining the difference between making fun of somewhere for being fat and racism because the original comment I replied to genuinely didn’t seem to understand.