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The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom against Russian oppression. We should be helping them, and your defeatism is doing the opposite.
What percent of them are conscripted?
Doesn't matter that they're conscripted, they're invaders and aggressors and they need to be stopped. We should be helping Ukraine, and you're over here waving the surrender flag.
You said its that they want to fight for their freedom so we should help them. Turns out a large portion of them are forced to fight, they dont want to. How are you okay with giving money to a country so they can fight a war with war slaves?
Yeah, when your country is attacked by a conquering, aggressive nation, you fire up conscription. This isn't rocket science. Ukraine is fighting for it's survival, it needs soldiers to fight off the invaders.
We should give money, and weapons and materiel, to help in that fight.
But do you understand how the war is lost, and they are still forced to fight and die because leaders like Zelensky can make them fight? You claimed they were fighting for their freedom, but a large portion of them are fighting so they dont get imprisoned or shot by their own government.
go sign up instead of cheering on for other people to die if you genuinely believe that, which you obviously do not
I don't need advice from anyone speaking for Putin, thanks.
The only person you should be taking advice from is a psychiatrist.
I certainly don't need medical advice from a mouthpiece of the Russian state.
You keep on repeating that if that helps you cope.
I don't need to cope with anything, I'm calling out Russian propaganda.
What you're actually doing is running around calling people names. It's low effort trolling that just adds noise to the thread. Trolls like you should be banned.
It's clearly what you think you're doing. 😂
Yes, We should be helping Ukraine, the East Ukraine that has been bombed by West Ukraine since 2014. Did you not see what West Ukraine troops look like? Nazi symbols everywhere.
By "we" I assume you mean your government. If you're in the US your country already backed a fascist coup in 2014 and had been bombing eastern Ukrainians and ethnic Russians like in Donbas and Crimea for resisting. As you'd expect, that meant people in Donbas welcomed the Russian army as liberators in 2022.
Not to mention blocking all negotiations with Russia because the war is profitable for the US MIC.
I wouldn't exactly call that "helping"
go sign up and fight for what you believe in
"You wanna go to war? Fine, go die in a war. It's just like Call of Duty."
I'm not apologizing for anything.
You're towing the Russian propaganda line, same thing.
I'm saying obvious factual things as reported by western media. Calling that Russian propaganda line shows utter lack of intellectual integrity on your part.
No, you're agitating for Russian interests.
I love how you keep chanting that since you don't have any actual counterpoint to make.
Because Russian propaganda doesn't deserve to be engaged with, any more than the Republican cowards with their JAQing off. It's the same nonsense, and deserves no respect.
It Russian propaganda in the room with you right now?
It's in this thread with me right now for sure.
Sounds like it's mostly in your blueAnon brain actually.
No it's in every post and comment you spew out, especially this one.
Again, literal facts that are extensively documented by western media https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup
The fact that you're unable to engage with reality and screech about Russian propaganda instead says a lot about you.
More Russian lies.
You should move to an instance that defederates from here, nobody wants to listen to your blueAnon conspiracies here.
I couldn't care less what a bunch of pro-Russian propagandists want. As long as I can see your bullshit, I intend to keep calling it out.
So far you haven't called out any bullshit. You just run around calling people names. I guess in blueAnon circles that passes for making an argument.
Nope, I'm calling out what is obvious Russian propaganda. Namely everything that comes from your account.
What's the Russian propaganda you're calling out, be specific?
Your entire post and comment chain in this thread, for starters.
Everything I've said in this thread is factual and backed by western sources. Try to put more effort into your trolling in the future.
BlueAnonsense.
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