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[โ€“] bouh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not really true. Because the money invested in the military goes back to the local economy. And it is a much more real economy than finance.

[โ€“] smonkeysnilas@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well a good share goes back that's true, but certainly not everything. I mean the plants could've also built school busses and ambulances instead of military vehicles, right? I was just pointing out that "no downsides" is a bit optimistic, the costs are very real. And it is a pity that in this day and age we still have to put up with that ๐Ÿ™

[โ€“] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean the plants couldโ€™ve also built school busses and ambulances instead of military vehicles, right? I was just pointing out that โ€œno downsidesโ€ is a bit optimistic, the costs are very real. And it is a pity that in this day and age we still have to put up with that ๐Ÿ™

You're not recognizing the reality that existed before this if that is your stance. The plants were already building the military vehicles except those plants were in the USA with the vehicles being shipped to Europe for Europe defense. The difference in this particular aspect is that now Europeans will have a stronger hand in their own defense.

[โ€“] smonkeysnilas@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well I guess if you consider "the west" as one common block then yes, maybe it is a net-zero game. And maybe that really is the fair assessment. But from the purely european point of view it sure was nice when we had a peace divident that we could invest elsewhere.

[โ€“] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, indeed it is a cost for the society. But when people are forced to work to be allowed to live, the problem is not the workforce.

It is a pity in this day and age that there are still wars, but it is an even greater pity that we have to work artificial jobs to be allowed to live imo.

Money shouldn't be a concern.

[โ€“] smonkeysnilas@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

You're not wrong, at least building military things does add value to society especially in times like these. Maybe working some bullshit job is worse in that regard ๐Ÿ˜‰ Still I would prefer to live in a world that wouldn't need both of these things.