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Microsoft's new Recall AI will take screenshots of everything you do - freaky
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How?
By taking screenshots of your desktop.
How does that violate GDPR?
By taking screenshots of everything you do on your PC
Again, how does that violate GDPR?
Are you saying every screenshot tool violates GDPR?
One that Screenshots what you do without you knowing (wich will 100% happen as most people don't read news about the shit Microsoft is doing) it would need to be opt in and very specifically tell you what it does.
So it does by existing.
So let's assume it isn't opt-in (it probably is though) -- you've still yet to explain how an application taking screenshots, even without your knowledge, violates GDPR.
You just keep saying that it does. Prove it.
The taking of screenshots is the privacy violation. There is nothing i have to "proof" about that, its the same thing as permanently recording you, wich is illegal.
Ots collection of data and as such falls under the strict laws around GDPR.
Prove it.
It is absolutely not the same thing.
What data are they collecting?
https://gdpr-info.eu/
Read. Every single bit of data falls under GDPR. Even if it's just a true/false statement.
I'm not debating that. I'm asking you what data they are collecting
Screenshots.
Source that Microsoft is collecting screenshots using this tool?
https://lemmy.zip/post/15983719
So is the issue that you just don't know what "local" means?
A Keylogger also runs locally... A virus does the same... What you are saying is just ridiculous.
Not ones that a company can use to collect data.
What you are saying is just ridiculous.
Bro GDPR is about getting and processing data, there is no fucking point you can make to say that this isn't a GDPR violation. You are being absolutely nuts about it. They have no right to do that in general.
Neither of which are possible unless they can get that data, bro
When they collect that data, they do it for a reason... They don't do it just because its possible to do it... The existence of the data itself is a problem as its collected without consent.
You are making a fool of yourself.
How do they collect that data if it stays local?
You are making a fool of yourself.
Do you actually think they just screenshot everything for no reason? If so please just get help.
Huh? Of course it's not for no reason...
We're talking about whether taking and storing screenshots locally constitutes a GDPR violation. Which it doesn't.
No we are talking about the entirety of this shit being a violation, not just the part about the Screenshots being made and locally stored (although that probably would violate other laws)
The GDPR does not apply to taking, storing, and processing screenshots locally.
"Probably" = you have no idea what you're talking about.
Bloating up hard-drives could be ruled as damage to a system, that would be a court matter however.
So we agree that you were wrong about Microsoft violating the GDPR with this software, then.
No you just think its about something i didn't say it was about, you literally took the goalposts for a run.
True or false: You claimed that this software, which takes, stores, and processes screenshots locally, constitutes a violation of the GDPR.
Correct, the processing part is the important one. And thats what I've said.
So your claim is that any software that processes any data entirely locally on a users machine is violating the GDPR?
Yes if it doesn't have consent absolutely. Have you read the fucking link i gave you?
Source that it doesn't have consent?
So no source.
What a surprise.
https://gdpr-info.eu/
Please quote the part that illustrates where Recall gets activated without user consent.
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-12-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-13-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-17-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-18-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-20-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-21-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-22-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-32-gdpr/
All of these may be violated depending on implementation, there is no meaningful way of implementation that wouldn't violate any of them. Nobody would opt-in to such BS.
There has to be explicit consent, the article doesn't state it as opt in, therefore it would violate GDPR and likely other laws about Network safety.
Literally all of those are nullified so long as the setup includes a compliant consent check. Which you literally cannot know whether it does or does not. Because the software isn't released yet.
That one article Liam wrote about a piece of software that hasn't been released yet? Well, case closed!
So your claim may be true. Well isn't that a side-step from your initial assertion.
Again, color me shocked.
Colore me shocked you finally understand that law is about specific things and im talking about what is laid out in the article!
And as i said, that thing being opt in would make it useless so it won't be outside of EU, if it even comes to eu, we already have a different windows version than the rest of the world.
Well no, actually you're specifically making assumptions based on what's not laid out in the article (which is, again, written by Liam, who's a nice guy, but by no means an authority). Big difference.
The article doesn't specify that Bill Gates won't personally come to your house and strangle you if you use Recall. Should we assume that he will?
Cool, not relevant to whether or not your claim is true or false.
I will just block you now because you are obviously a troll.
Can't defend your claim? Just block the other person and call them a troll!
Great look, bro. I'm sure that attitude will get you far.
Edit: LMAO the instant downvote proves that you don't even have the conviction to block me. Sad.
"Everything I don't like is a GDPR violation" lol