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Two decades of U.S. policy appear to be rooted in a mistaken understanding of what happened that day. archive

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Remember kids: Iran is the bad Middle East autocracy and Saudi Arabia is the good Middle East autocracy.

US foreign policy has always been and will always be interest based rather than value based, but they will use moral arguments and threat inflation to drum up support for their misadventures abroad.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (12 children)

Or.. one is bad and the other one is way worse.

Anyway this just means that a straight B-line for no longer being fossil fuel dependent is just more important.

If we can then combine that by sourcing the oil from countries that do not perform stonings and public executions in stadiums, of call it a win.

Keep in mind that not 50 years ago, we had an oil crisis that showed how incredibly depended we where, and the EU learned the hard way what energy dependence on Russia meant.

Solar, Wind and a hydro/Geothermal/nuclear baseload with at least 60 months of stored fission material would be my hope.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

100% agree, no longer being oil dependent would make the middle east a saver place (as well as having many other advantages).

But even the green revolution needs cheap labor, recourses, and rare-earth metals. Countries that do not want to play game and want to nationalize key industries for instance, will be coerced financially or militarily by greater powers (be it the West, China, or Russia).

So the idea of one country being worse than the other is not really relevant and moreover a known strategy for getting war support. I am happy that I don’t live in Iran or Saudi Arabia, but escalating conflict with either of them will not improve anybody’s life. Look at Syria or Libya.

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