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with all the choices I have, I don't really know what to choose, there is Matrix, Signal, Briar, Jami, and alot of other privacy focused messenger app that I haven't even heard of.

need to discuss things with people on the internet, mostly people who already knows privacy stuff.

I need to choose one that's the most popular one to avoid having people making accounts, what's the most commonly used (private) messenger app?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (9 children)

My rundown
If you want anonymity:
1- element, with a self hosted server , or just on any open instance. There is a lot of metadata storage involved. If you want to run it through tor. mind the IP leakage as it uses WebRTC for voice and video calls
2-Wire: You need to trust the company behind it as server code is closed source, but in terms of usability, It is unbeatable IMO, they store more metadata on you compared to Signal
4- XMPP: you can self host an xmpp server if you have the know how. I have used it but was disappointed, most apps and software handle encryption very poorly. and both you and your interlocutor need to have accounts on servers running the same protocol add-ons. quite a messy situation.
3- Jami: P2P secure private communication, has some connectivity problems. but worth a try with people curious enough to join you in
4- Briar: basic chat app with strong encryption. could be used in a mesh network, suitable for situation like protests and big gatherings.
4- Threema : never used it, to use it you need to pay a subscription fee
6- wikr : they say its good
5- Session: still in its infancy. no video or phone calls yet. it was audited back in the time when it relied on onion routing, now they have switched to LokiNet. that audit is no more valid. + they rolled back on Perfect Forward secrecy.

Phone number registration:
1- Signal: Best in class in terms of conversation encryption. with a lot of features. I might be biased but I don't trust the team, especially with the latest server situation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Wire server-side is FLOSS (https://github.com/wireapp/wire-server) but its main company is now in the US and their terms and conditions... well... also take in account the metadata about people you contact which is still saved in plain text in their servers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

thanks for the correction, I use wire through tor, and the thing about wire that draw me to use it is the absence of need for a phone number, and the fact that unlike others the app just works with very few hickups.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

From some time ago, even in the mobile phone, you have also the option to setup a new Wire account with an email address.

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