YOUR MOVE LEMMY.WORLD
this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2023
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It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it's users will not be allowed to proceed.
We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.
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Every time I see a picture of him I think it has to be edited or something. He’s like a walking Snapchat filter.
"Hello, fellow humans!"
Does any other human out there love smoked meats ?
The best part about the full smoked meats vid is when his "friends" (i.e. employees) come over. What really gets me is that the friends NEVER speak unless spoken to, because it's just a really awkward work event where Zuck has to pretend he has friends.
It made him look so gosh dang relatable.
No, that's not the word I'm looking for. Unlikeable. That's the one.
This could be the intro to a found footage horror film about a cannibal that smokes his victims.
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Thanks for saving us lemmy.ml Admins.
o7. We're out here for yall, and we're gonna make sure the fediverse stays inoculated from threats.
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A welcome move. F**k megacorps polluting everything on internet.
I would like to also add this argument into the discussion, since I've seen a lot of people who are voting for federating with meta, with the argument that defederating just because we don't like someone goes against the idea of Fediverse, and interconnected network of diverse servers that is should inclusive and allows people to connect.
It's quite the contrary - allowing Meta in goes directly against the idea of Fediverse, and we should fight it as much as possible.
This is a literal quote from the main header on https://www.fediverse.to/
The fediverse is a collection of community-owned, ad-free, decentralised, and privacy-centric social networks.
Each fediverse instance is managed by a human admin. You can find fediverse instances dedicated to art, music, technology, culture, or politics.
Join the growing community and experience the web as it was meant to be.
Judging by this main selling point of the Fediverse, it sounds to me like Meta shouldn't be in the Fediverse do begin with, and every instance should defederate from them by default.
100% I will only be using instances that don't federate with corporations.
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I would say we need a vote if lemmy.world should do the same. I would be for blocking meta.
Well, why don't we have a Lemmy feature where the individual user can block content and users from an instance? Rather than defederating completely?
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I hope Lemmy.world does the same.
I'm moving if they don't.
Same. I just wish there was an easy way to transfer. I just found the communities I wanted and I don’t look forward to making a new profile and adding them all again.
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Prophylactic intervention is the best defense against Metastasis.
Well done Lemmy.ml - hopefully the rest of the fediverse follows your example. This is, no exaggeration, an existential threat to the fed.
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Whenever I see Zuck I think of this song "Is Mark Zuckerberg a Ghost" by Nap Eyes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq2YhOY55zU
Also, this is the right move. Facebook/Meta only wants to harvest our data and profit off it.
Amen! I made a longer post explaining my reasoning for blocking Threads and the decision took only 15 minutes.
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the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to preemptively block threats / Meta
The only sane approach to this "dilemma". Thank you for keeping the instance free of "threats" (I see what you did there)
It's quite the dilemmy
Joined a few Lemmy instances, but the admin team taking actions like these might make lemmy.ml my main place to go. Anything corporate is irredeemable.
Excellent news. I would have moved to another instance that did block if .ml didn't block them. Thank you for this lemmy.ml
Thank you!
Meta will only go full on E/E/E on the fediverse, even by "accident" (like adding new features and breaking the standard). Better choke them off right from the start and build small organic communities instead.
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Awesome. This is great news. I just joined this instance and happy to see this position.
Yes excellent! No corporations!!! Just blocked on mine.
Great news, now let's hope every instance follows.
Hi guys, I'm new here from Reddit and I'm still learning about Lemmy and the Fediverse. Can someone ELI5 how not blocking Threads can negatively affect this community? Thanks.
This is the gist: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
Basically, big companies can destroy decentralised network from within once big enough people adopt it.
What they do is
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Embrace - adopt the network with their own proprietary system, like Threads for example, as opposed to other system in the fediverse right now that are open source.
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Extend - spend resources like money, manpower, and even extensive knowledge on how to expand and make the network a better place with a lot more features while simultaneously promoting and making so that only their proprietary app can access it in the best way.
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Exterminate / Extinguish - once they have good amount of users, they can start crippling the other side, like maybe Threads can see posts from Lemmy and Mastodon but not the other way around, people are gonna think that Threads is superior and leaving the original instances. They can also pull back resources like even the people who used to work on developing the network that they used to give so generously before, and such the maintainer now has no way to keep up in developing the network.
Also known as the EEE tactic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
I think the idea is that by being the largest player they could take over and add features that the rest of the fediverse didn’t have. And then the people here (mastodon) would move there to keep following their favourite celeb.
I don’t think there’s any good argument why you couldn’t keep both for different things. Or why Facebook would even care about the ~200k users on mostodon when they cracked 70M in 24 hours
Haha... I wasn't wrong when choosing lemmy.ml as my lemmy server 😉
Gonna go against the grain here a little bit, but why? If they are federated, it will mean that you can move off of threads more easily to other servers and not get locked into a walled garden. Encouraging companies to embrace federation will avoid the shit shows like we've seen at twitter and reddit, since users will be easily able to jump ship without much loss. Additionally, apps like threads make federated platforms much more approachable to newcomers and those who do not even know what the fediverse is.
I'd love someone to explain it to me, but this feels like a massive footgun.
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