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One in 7,000 people, according to his unpublished analysis, was born to parents who were first-degree relatives—a brother and a sister or a parent and a child. “That’s way, way more than I think many people would ever imagine,”
Now I'm not walking around thinking I'm living in a porn movie, but a rate of 0.014% is not what I would call shocking.
And this number is just a floor: It reflects only the cases that resulted in pregnancy, that did not end in miscarriage or abortion, and that led to the birth of a child who grew into an adult who volunteered for a research study.
Either way, what number of parent raping and impregnating their child or sibling raping and impregnating their sibling would be shocking to you? Because to most people it's probably "anything that isn't zero".
It's shocking to you that rape exists? Clearly its a bad thing and shouldn't happen, and it's upsetting, but I would disagree that most people would be shocked if you told them "more than zero rapes happened this year".
While I agree with you in principle, I actually do think that 1/7k is unexpectedly high. If 1/10k people had an incestuous relationship, that would be low enough that I wouldn't find it surprising. This study, if we take it to be cross-sectional, implies that the rate of incidence is much higher, at least on the order of 1/1k, possibly something around 1%. I don't know the frequency that people of incestuous individuals have a child as a result, but the idea of it being higher than 1/7 strikes me as unlikely. Of course, multiple children can result from a pairing, so that has the potential to sway the numbers, but I'd hope that incestuous individuals are less likely to desire children from the relationship, and as a result would take a pregnancy as a sign to stop.
And this number is just a floor: It reflects only the cases that resulted in pregnancy, that did not end in miscarriage or abortion, and that led to the birth of a child who grew into an adult who volunteered for a research study.
Meaning that this could be an indication of a wider incest....problem?......trend?.....idk....
Edit: it was literally the next sentence....
Given the number of blathering idiots there are, I'm kinda surprised inbreeding isn't even more common.
I’ve been thinking it’s pretty common for a while, just because of how common a version of it with plausible deniability for the downsides (step siblings, etc.) is in porn. I know people say it’s just to appeal to people who really like it and the rest can just mute, but that’s very unconvincing. I always have porn muted, because the sounds don’t do much for me and just about every person I talk to about this (not a lot, so grain of salt) is surprised that anyone would mute as a rule. Secondly, I don’t think you really need words to pick up on the incest vibe.
My theory about all the step sibling porn is that they’re trying to get you to pay for the “normal” porn. “Yes you can watch it for free…but wouldn’t it be better if it wasn’t so weird?” I don’t think most people find those story lines appealing.
Sibling or other incestuous roleplay is super common actually. The step sibling stuff on porn sites afaik was once again enforced from their payment providers or advertisers. Because people who aren't related, but acting like they are, are apparently turning the world into Sodom & Gomorrah, and based on some of those weird virgin or conspiracytard comments here it seems that some people actually do believe this too.
I think the idea is that step porn is basically just normal porn past the first few opening lines.
Normal people will just skip that bit and watch.
People into incest will watch the first few lines.
Unfortunately, I think a lot of porn makers have tried to split the baby and ended up alienating both audiences. People into incest don't like the whole "step" thing, because it's not real incest. And people who don't like incest don't like the "step" thing, because it's too close to real incest.
Essentially, I think porn producers think it's a moneymaker, but it's really just bad porn production.
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Incest porn is so disgusting. I don't care if it's fictional, it's still disgusting.
I have no problem with porn in general, but I'm just glad I don't know who gets off on the incest porn.
It’s 100% not my thing, but, y’know, neither is scat. I’m just assuming someone likes it because it’s everywhere. Another user suggested it’s to get people to pay for non-incest porn, which sounds possible, though the porn companies would have to be willing to collude about that. I’m not sure if that’s likelier than that people are just ashamed about it.
I think a third option is that porn companies think it's what people want whether it is or not and people consume it because it's oversaturated the market.
That’s the thing about it though. It’s pretty easy to see how often a term is searched for, both through your own site and through Google, so these companies know people want it. In fact, Pornhub claims “step mom” is one of the highest searched terms on their site. How’s that for mommy issues.
Ick.
I’m sure they do a lot more tracking than that. It may also be that some of these niches are more likely to have “whales”. One whale might be more profitable than many/all freeloaders
That's the easy and probably true answer. They have tons of data, they know what people actively search for and how often. They wouldn't make it if it wasn't profitable.
Or a 4th option. It's just lazy low cost plot writing.
That’s possible, though I gotta assume they use tracking. Actually, I wonder if it’s just as common outside of private mode
Good question. If you're really into incest porn, you might be inclined to do your best to hide it.
I mean, I just use a private window as a matter of course because I use the auto complete for common websites and I don’t want anything untoward showing up if I’m looking something up in front of people. I gotta assume that’s pretty common, no matter what people are into.
Yes, the bigger problem is when people think a private window does more than forget their search history and cookies on their device
The UK actually has a big issue with incest. Especially with cousins. Causes loads of child fatalities.
Really big issue with people from Asia, incest is the norm there.
Edit for those downvoting me is this a recorded issue. It's been in the news. Just because it doesnt fit the narrative or we arent meant to talk about those things doesn't mean it isn't happening.
Is the UK like Brazil where cousins relationships aren't illegal?
Yes. They aren't illegal apparently. White people in the UK don't marry their cousin from my understanding though. So it becomes racist to infringe on other cultures I guess, eventhough it is the UK and UK culture should be what's important.
Fun fact, Charles Darwin married his cousin. It used to be a more common among white Britons (and other Europeans, especially royalty lol), but it's rare now. It is indeed quite common among Britons of Pakistani heritage, buts it's becoming rarer. And the risk of genetic defects is actually quite small. I don't think it can be considered incest when its legal.
There is a theory that the reduction in cousin marriage in Europe reduced the power of clan groupings and led to the more indivualistic liberal culture we have now, with both good and less desirable effects (basically, more freedom but weaker communal bonds)
If 1/7000 kids are the product of incest, I'm guessing that 1//500 have been lied to about their biological father; looking at you royal family of England.
Well there's 8 billion humans and 331 million Americans so
Over a million humans and almost 50k Americans.
Rad
A bit off topic but, here is the latest episode from the podcast Citations Needed. They talk about the Atlantic's shitty politics. It made me not want to give them any views.
What's the equivalent to take me home country roads in UK? I think it deserves one.
Heave me 'ome, Bri*ish raaaaail.
To tha' place, sisters thooong.
Git no charisma, so mountin mama!
Take me load, sitting on my chode!
Perfect 👌