The whole internet loves Kagi, a lovely paid search engine that can find things! *5 seconds later* We regret to inform you the CEO is an unhinged narcissist who will harangue you in email : techtakes

[–] phoenixz 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (14 children)

I was about to jump off DuckDuckGo as its also going down, was going to go for kagi, in very much reconsidering that now... But then what?

Running your own personal search engine might be a bit much to chew off for most people, but is there a good open source federated search engine out there that I can contribute a server to, perhaps?

Edit: and before anyone ironically says "Google that yourself", I already searched and found a lot of blog posts, GitHub projects, but nothing concrete, no "that's the one!" Project that is and open source and federated...

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Wait whats this about AI? Can anyone explain? I just started the free trial because i was tired of shitty google results, are they literally doing the same thing now?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (6 children)

The whole internet loves Kagi

Lol no

Also Kagi is a glorified Google front end.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

This is a reference to the milkshake duck tweet

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

He missed the opportunity of just replying unsubscribe or signing the CEO up for cat facts.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was delighted to find a sci-fi story hidden between pages full of AI shilling on the website, and then disappointed because it's not even funny-bad.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So in reading the comments from Lori there is a pretty good reason why the initial offer for a call was rejected, this was left out in the main body of the post. Their point was if a private conversation takes place, especially over a call where information isn't recorded, then the CEO could claim whatever they want took place during that conversation.

Here is the quote, you can find it in the third comment from the top:

"1) If there's one thing I know about online interactions, it's not to let someone take you to Crime Scene Number Two. Having a private debate with Vlad about this would mean no witnesses and no accountability, meaning he could claim anything about the discussion. Even moreso when done through a call instead of text."

So I do agree that it seems a bit hostile for a first response but it does seem to come from experience with these situations. You could give the CEO the benefit of the doubt and say that wasn't his intentions, but if I was in Lori's shoes I would have reacted the same way and not given the benefit of the doubt.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if "no, I'm not interested" counts as engagement...

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

i was impressed enough with kagi's by-default deranking/filtering of seo garbage that i got a year's subscription a while back. good to know that this is what that money went to. suppose i'll ride out the subscription (assuming they don't start injecting ai garbage into search before then) and then find some other alternative

switching topics, but i do find it weird how the Brave integration stuff (which i also only found out about after i got the subscription) hadn't... bothered me as much? to be exceptionally clear, fuck Brandon Eich and Brave -- the planet deserves fewer bigots, crypto grifters, and covid conspiracists -- but i can't put my finger on why Kagi paying to consume Brave's search API's just doesn't cause as much friction with me. honestly it could be the fact that when i pay for Kagi it doesn't feel like i'm bankrolling Eich and his ads-as-a-service grift, whereas the money for my subscription is definitely paying for Vlad to ~~reply-guy into bloggers' inboxes who are critical of the way Kagi operates~~ correct misunderstandings about Kagi.

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