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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

The internet is such a weird fucking place right now.

Every single British community I'm in is just wall to wall memes and jokes and people asking if this means we get a holiday. Nobody gives a shit about the monarchy, at best people think "it's a tourist attraction and I'm ok with it as that" and at worst people want rid of it. Beyond that people do not care. There's probably an incredibly tiny minority of actual royalists that genuinely give a shit.

Americans on the other hand are falling over themselves to hide anyone making even the smallest lame jokes about it. American liberals crying about civility and empathy while american conservatives act like offending the monarchy is deeply offensive to Britain as a nation. The two of them are pretty much an inch apart while the actual British left's response is "rest in piss".

It's really fucking weird online, as a Brit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Norwegian online newspapers have dedicated at least twice as much space to the event as bbc.co.uk. I think I saw her obituary below a recipe for pasta. It's weird.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I searched up "Queen Elizabeth Death" and it was all American news sites lol. Had to specifically search "Queen Elizabeth Death BBC" to find this.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's easy to idealise the queen when you don't live under her bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah I suspect that's what it is. The propaganda works outside the country much more than it does inside it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

The only reason why it was tolerated in the past 50 years was because of tourism.

It's a monarchy, people get put into an absurdly privileged and powerful position just for being born in a specific family. And then there is a whole industry focused on documenting their disfunctional life.

It just sucks for anyone involved but maybe the tourists, even the royals themselves.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Hopefully they will abolish the monarchy soon.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

ngl, i kinda feel sad

i grew up in england as a child, and was exposed to her and the british monarchy in general, and they were a significant part of my childhood, and i guess the combination of of the lack of responsibilities and the general impressionability of childhood just left me with a super warm, nice, pleasant, comforting feeling about her, she was kinda like my grandma...

and it inevitably feels sad to me when this part of my life goes away

but on the other hand, i realize the implications of monarchy, especially given the current crises in england, and very much think that monarchy is a bad thing, and so these two irreconcilable perspectives weirdly coexist within me...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You have no concerns for things like, you know, very tiny things how these monsters colonised and looted and tortured India for 200 years?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i realize the implications of monarchy

these two irreconcilable perspectives weirdly coexist within me

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Calling inhuman, monstrous and genocidal activities some implications is very... hand wavy, just saying. Brits divided and screwed up Asia and Middle East border lines, among many other obvious things. Hong Kong only happened a couple years ago, and China still has skirmishes with us over those damn border lines. We deal with their shit to this day. And then we have brainwashed people writing RIP and wishing this monster a peaceful death.

I wonder how many will act apologetic for Clinton, Obama, Bush, Kissinger and other mass genociders.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i'm aware of these things, i just expressed what i felt in my original comment, are you trying to make me not sad?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Just trying to make you feel that what you said about her being a grandma to you, for us she and British Empire is one of the most horrific monsters in human existence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well I appreciate you being honest. Her approval ratings are over 86% so she's a wildly popular politician in the UK. Which is something that's really confused me so I'm glad to hear somewhat of an explanation about it

But it definitely seems like something that needs to be unlearned. She played an active role in the colonialism and specifically rebranding the colonization of Africa to make it more palatable for the 21st century and ensure it could continue.

I try not to get into the habit of telling other people what they need to unlearn, but now seems like a uniquely important time to elevate discussions about the inconvenient truth of Britain's continued colonialism