A community to share images of witches and any other witch adjacent characters like dark summoners, necromancers or mages with a witchy vibe.
Maybe I am the only one in that case but just wanted to say: I subscribed to this because it was filled with chill images that helped project in imaginary places. I hope this does not become a WitchWaifu board.
If the point of the image is just to show a sexy girly, maybe this is not the most interesting place to post it in?
I'm not sure who you're complaining to... The place barely has any activity, and this is the second image I've contributed in the last six months.
And I really don't see how it wouldn't fit. Or how you can come to the conclusion that it doesn't have a point besides arousal.
This image literally does not contain anything beside a character, doing nothing in particular. It has no background, no action, no atmosphere.
Are you trying to insult my taste in art? Or are you just generally insensitive?
If you are insulted by factual statements, take a deep breath and look within.
Telling someone off when they are being an incorteous couth is not mutually exclusive with having a thick skin. Learning not to let assholes affect you, doesn't have to mean you start ignoring rudeness when you encounter it.
The opposite. To ignore is to forgive and even accept such behavior. If you have the fortitude to withstand it, and wit to retort it, it makes you the MOST suitable to tackle it.
You have called a piece of art I like "pointless" and at my pointing out the insensitivity of doing so, you have chosen to double down by claiming your opinion is fact.
Would you care to attempt to explain how your behavior is not a "dick move" dripping in passive aggression? Or would you like to own this playground behaviour by saying something along the lines of "yeah, I'm being mean on purpose!".
As for your complaints, the applicable community rules are as follows:
- Shared artwork must contain a witch or witch adjacent character
There is no mention of activity, background, or "aTmoSPhErE", me and 42+ other people liked it. I don't think you can claim your statements about a lack of merit are anything like "FaCt".
Get over it. If you can't, take a deep breath, and look within.
We disagree, I explain why. I don't think I am being insensitive, my opinion is as valid as yours, I explain it. You are free to disagree. I don't see where assholishness comes into play.
So you would claim it is a fact that a character alone cannot have something like "atmosphere"?
Your initial comment is already rude, as you're effectively complaining that I posted the "wrong" thing, on the first post to break 10 upvotes in months, in a near-dead community.
I find it more polite to explain the downvotes than just downvoting. And communities require discussion and disagreement. No one upvoted my opinion, I guess you were the one to downvote it, so there is no way to know who is more aligned with the majority. This is indeed the type of content I feel does not steer the group in the good direction and I will probably leave if it dominates.
Of course it is subjective, and saying that picture convey no atmosphere is just me being polite. The pose, the clothing, the lack of action, actually gives it an atmosphere: a pin-up/waifu atmosphere. This is not really what I am looking for here.
Have you even considered the most obvious course of action?
Post more of the content you want to see, yourself.
That's literally what I'm doing, and why I'm so completely dismissive of you. What the hell would be the point of me posting stuff you want to see, when the whole reason I do it in the first place, is to inspire more of the content I like?
To complain to the people actually posting content, is not discussion. I'm not posting this content for you. I'm posting it for me. Because I like it. To converse with a poster about what kind of content should be posted as a mere consumer of the content is barely a voice worth noting.
But the instant you post yourself, that is an equally loud statement about what you feel a place is for.
Your feedback is unhelpful, and insulting in the way you present it as a courtesy to "help" posters please you. As if that's the goal.
I don't care that, or why, you don't like it. Downvoting and moving on is far more useful, because if the votecount actually indicated that the content is unwelcome, I could just post it somewhere else.
It doesn't, which doubly means your view will have absolutely zero impact on how I post, or I suspect on how anyone else posts.
Sorry for not liking the content you post on a platform designed to comment on posts.
You asked for specifics, I gave them.
I post when I find content I like.
Is it your art? If not do you realize how overreacting you are?
Sorry for not liking the content you post on a platform designed to comment on posts.
Ok? Nothing about a platform being for communication means you HAD to go out of your way to make a point of your displeasure.
You asked for specifics, I gave them.
No I didn't. I stated things, and asked nothing until I directly asked about how and why you choose your words. I tried to nicely inform you that you made no sense and no one cares.
To claim this post doesn't belong still makes no sense.
I post when I find content I like.
Cool. I actively look for it on a daily basis. You should try doing that instead of leaving comments that effectively do little more than ask me to find it for you.
Is it your art? If not do you realize how overreacting you are?
Obviously not. I credit the original creator and link to their accounts.
And again, your "feedback" is pointless. I will not heed it.
I do not like that you commented. You did not have a nice thought to share, and you should have kept it to yourself. There was no "kind" way to comment what you have commented.
If I can say more to make sure you do not do it again, I will. You may call that "reaction" as oversized as you like.
I am saying that lovingly and without sarcasm: you are very clearly overreacting. Maybe show that conversation with people you trust and like and get their opinion but you are having an abnormal tantrum.
Are you having a bad time in life?
Are you having a bad time in life?
You're doing it again, and this one is a lot worse.
I really, really want you to start considering this stuff as you put your thoughts into words.
You can't just suddenly flip to "genuine concern" in an adverserial exchange without it coming off as condescending. In this case it's even worse because you actually asked about my life.
You can't do that in this context without the potential subtext suggesting that you think there's something fundamentally wrong with someone's life, mind, or both, and that that allows you to dismiss what they are saying out of hand.
If you want me to see how I'm going overboard, explain it. Don't start pretending at being a therapist.
Why is doing my utmost to modify behaviours I don't want the people around me to exhibit, "too much"?
Well yeah, I think I was clear that I disagree with your opinion. Of course I am dismissing it, especially with you giving no other argument than saying it is rude to state my opinion. Disagreeing I do all the time with other people without assuming they have mental issues. We have different tastes in art. What is more natural than that?
The concern is genuine. You are getting abnormally défensive, angry and paranoid about a post on an image board. Why do you care that much?
I would like to ask you to note that I'm not asking you to change your opinion.
But how, where, and whether, you express it.
I don't care you that you don't like what I like.
I do care that you carry a level of entitlement that makes you think anyone wanted to hear about it.
You're not going to change what I or anyone else likes. As you know, that's subjective.
The only outcome your comment can possibly have is to publically express your displeasure at something, with entirely subjective grounds. You're not expressing a concern for some actual rule being violated, but simply whining about how other people don't like what you like.
Why is that worth doing?
It's like telling someone you don't like how they breathe. Like, ok? I'm not gonna stop but I guess now I know a thing I do displeases you in some tiny way. Thanks?
You are worried over people expressing their opinion on a platform designed for it?
What is the comment section about, in your opinion?
Yes. You aren't? We can always be more considerate and thoughtful in how we engage in communication.
I know people like to express their opinions just for the sake of it.
But sometimes, an opinion isn't worth sharing. Or can even be a net-negative, to share.
This is one of those cases.
You had a thought, no-one wanted to know about. You served solely yourself by voicing it.
I said before, that it wasn't a nice thought. That there was no kind way to express it.
So you could have just not. This is the stuff I want to you to think about.
If the only person who benefits or enjoys hearing about a thought you're having, is you, then it doesn't need to leave your head. It has already reached the target audience.
Why do you post images here then?
This is not danbooru, this is a discussion board. You don't want any discussion? We are only allowed to post praises?
But sometimes, an opinion isn’t worth sharing.
Likewise for images.
If the only person who likes hearing about a thought you’re having, is you, then it doesn’t need to leave your head.
You were not the target audience. The community at large was. And it was a failure because no one really chime in in support, but I had no way of knowing before posting.
Because I like looking at them, and other people do, too. I don't think you can put either of these up to debate.
You're allowed to post whatever you like, and so am I. What I am I asking you to do, is think more deeply about what you should post.
You were not the target audience. The community at large was.
Fine. I'm the target. But there was almost no overlap between your target audience and the receptive audience. That's my point. Some thoughts aren't welcome outside your own mind.
I had no way of knowing before posting.
We really didn't need to trade words for you to figure this out.
You’re allowed to post whatever you like, and so am I. What I am I asking you to do, is think more deeply about what you should post.
I feel that this advice of yours is extremely similar (and not more offensive) than what I posted in my first comment. I did think and still think that this image (which is not the first offender) was counter-productive and I tried to give elements to explain why I think it should not have been posted there.
Happy to see we both agree that it is fair to point out when someone posts things we don't like.
We really didn’t need to trade words for you to figure this out.
Yes, still a bit surprised you opted to.
Here are several points of logic you could have considered, which make your initial comment an odd way to facilitate the change you are looking for.
Look at it like this. How do you think posters would react if you left this comment on every "offending" post taking the community in a direction you don't like?
The only difference in such a scenario would be volume. If saying something loudly would be badly received, then saying it quietly isn't much better.
Well hopefully it would fix it.
You know that's a pattern I already observed, on reddit, on /r/cyberpunk. People were posting pictures of cyberpunk cityscape, and scene, and character, both male and female, then more female character, then less and less dressed, until it became the majority of the content. Several users enjoyed it, a lot did not. In the end the discussion resulted in the creation of /r/cyberbooty and everyone was happy.
The difference there is size. Once lemmy is big enough that splitting communities off without it simply killing one or the other is possible, this will be the correct course of action.
In this case, the community you are complaining in doesn't have enough activity for complaints like the ones on reddit, to make sense.
On Reddit, a couple people trying to push the style of content in a new direction in order to salvage a community by posting themselves, would drown in the sea of content.
On Lemmy, you can become the main contributor of a community overnight.
On Reddit, you can remove 90% of content in a sub and still have the remaining 10% be more content than any one person can consume.
On Lemmy, that'd simply kill most communities.
