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They're not particularly left wing, they just actually care about what happens to their citizens.
It's kind of sad that we've reached the point where everyone having a place to sleep at night and a modicum of dignity is considered to be a radically leftist idea
He didn't say scandies are radical. He said we're left wing. Which is subjective to what you're comparing to.
If you compare them to the US. Their right would be more left than the US left.
You must be American to ask something like this.
America is so damn red the rest of the world looks ike a solid shade of blue.
If only 
In sweden red is the color of left wing parties, and blue is the right wing parties.
Same for the UK and Canada too.
Same as Australia, mostly
Definitely the same in Italy
Yeah, same in America, but they don't have a left wing party, so the far right party uses red.
They are just capitalist with some welfare, nothing left-wing about them
In a cold climate, those who preferred "every man for himself" died a long time ago.
In Denmark it happened rather quickly and less than 200 years ago. Soo many things happened in the late 1800s after the abandonment of absolute monarchy in 1849, that I'm not going to pretend that I can explain it all in a comment.
So... while Denmark has a long history with vikings and kings and stuff, our constitution is relatively new and written around the same time as Karl Marx and the industrial revolution redefining what work is.
If you ever get around Copenhagen, the workers museum is well worth a visit for an insight into the specific events that lead to the democratic socialist government. It was a long hard process and tightly tied to the history of worker's unions.
Very briefly told, it was a worldwide class war. The events in Scandinavia were heavily influenced by the "bloody week" in Paris in 1871 and the establishment of the world wide organisation First International.
It culminated in a several months long lock out in 1899, which eventually gave workers the right to organize for collective agreements. This was only made possible with support from workers from all over the world.
One of the most amazing things about it was how they even managed to organize anyone at all in a time where all workers were dirt poor and only the owning class had any freedom and income at all. The founders of the first unions realized that it would be an uphill battle and were brutally honest about it. They told workers "It might take several generations to succeed, but it needs to be done, so that your grand children will have a chance for a better life.", and yet they managed to organize almost everyone.
It succeeded though and also much faster. One of the three founders of the socialist democratic party lived long enough to see it become the largest political party in the country in 1924 - a position it held until 2001.
Iβd suggest doing a little reading on what the political spectrum means, because they arenβt.
When you think a Siberian winter is normal spring weather, even ice cream seems warm.
I'd say the Nordics are somewhat economically left-wing.
They're not socially progressive, no.
Compared to the US, I'd say they're extremely socially progressive.
Healthcare, low gender pay gap, higher "minimum" wages (I know there's no legal minimum most places but there are commonly accepted lowest wages), very low homelessness, very LGBT+ accepting.
Socially progressive enough? Not for my tastes. But it's a lot better than the US in social systems
I'm as left as they come but the gender pay gap is a myth. It's all choice of field. If you average male teachers, it's going to be about the same as average female teachers. Going up and down for experience and other stuff, but it'll be close, the thing is, teachers don't get paid much and there's more female teachers than male. The opposite is true in IT or other digital/computing worlds. They pay better than teachers, but there's more men in this profession than women. The gender pay gap is a myth made up by averaging all employed people. I'm sorry but that is not a thing. If someone was still paying people significantly more or less based on their sex, people would be up in arms.
There are so many things to fight for in the name of justice, but this one isn't it.
The point is that the opportunities are systemically lower for women, so they end up less experienced on the whole or out of the workforce longer.
It was.
Eugenics was considered left wing around the 1930s. In Canada, the "father of Medicare" initially supported eugenics but realized how awful it was pretty quickly. The women who got universal sufferage similarly supported eugenics.
As a lefty, it sucks, but we need to be aware of our past and avoid similar mistakes.
As recent as the 90's it also used to be left-wing to oppose immigration, since it was seen as a way for the right to devalue labor and lower wages.
A lot has changed.
That's how immigration is used as is, but borders divide the working class against themselves and should be removed.
If only nation states had to compete on quality of life to keep their population up. If only nation states could be dissolved.
Are they?
Yeah. Sweden Democrats or the state of danish social democrats? Left wing?
Reality has a left wing bias.
Its a joke, but not really. If you base your government on the facts of reality, it tends to be perceived as "left wing."
Their capitalism has yet to enter late stage. It's only a matter of time.
Weβre slowly working towards becoming right wing
They aren't: