And always gonna be. Go cry about it some more
Getting strong Sealab 2021 but live action vibes here.
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strong Sealab 2021 but live action vibes
Now I want to see survey of people who loved Sealab 2021 and are apologists for Discovery. The venn diagram might just be a perfect circle...
I don't, myself, disagree with any of the many complaints people have about Disco. My counter argument is just - I still had fun.
You've given me this revelation that I defend Sealab 2021 exactly the same way...
Doppelgänger!!
I haven't yet seen the last season of Lower Decks, but apparently they make the claim that Discovery was set in an alternate universe.
https://cosmicbook.news/star-trek-discovery-erased-canon
https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/star-trek-erased.html
Again, I can't validate that, but have read those articles
I watched the episode. They didn't erase it. They clearly weren't paying attention.
The Klingons in our world evolved and look different from DSC onwards. The ones in the timeline they shifted to, do not. Simple as that. Made fairly clear with the other stuff about a Klingon sailing barge and what have you.
More whiny people just whining.
People do love to wine about Discovery, so that's not surprising. Thanks for the clarification. I do need to get onto watching the last LD season.
People love to whine about anything new - and not just about Star Trek.
I honestly think that newer Star Trek properties have been better than newer Star Wars properties on average.
Who's to say that episode wasn't from a multi verse branch and isn't canon itself? (It's a stretch, and I haven't seen the episode yet)
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lol did you forget that you already posted this?
Honestly, yes. I have so much stuff that I post that sometimes I don't update the tags properly and forget that I have already posted it. My mistake. That being said, was a while ago so meh.
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Obviously didn't get the reaction they were looking for.
OR.
Got exactly the reaction they were looking for and wanted more of it.
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My wife and I are watching Star Trek for the first time ever. We're on the 4th season of The Next Generation. So I'm not "in the know". Should we not watch discovery when we get to that point? What's wrong with it?
I love Discovery. You should definitely give it a chance.
It's not perfect, and some of the complaints in this thread are completely valid, but I attribute the ferocity of the hate it gets more to the fact that it brought Trek back as a series after a very long hiatus, and took some pretty big swings as a result.
I was around when DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise were the new shows that "just didn't understand Star Trek," so from my perspective it's all very cyclical. Trek fans, as with most long-standing fandoms, don't all handle change very gracefully.
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Honestly, it's just a different tone. That's about it. You should definitely watch it and decide for yourself whether you enjoy it, don't let other people online decide for you.
I will say that the first season is a little rough around the edges but all Star Trek shows are. It gets better as it goes on. Tone, acting, writing. It all takes a slight tonal shift in the second season. At least there's only 13ish episodes as opposed to the 24 of older shows.
It's not wrong per se, it's just different. I don't particularly like Discovery and Picard, but they're ok. They don't have the same monster of the week approach as the others, and a lot of the other stuff has already been discussed here; lack of development of the crew and their relationship, the main character is constantly on focus while everyone else in the bridge is in rear view, no breathing room for proper character development, the orcs/klingons, etc.
I would rather watch Lower Decks, Prodigy or even The Orville. They're closer to what I like about Star Trek (though The Orville takes a bit to get there).
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You can keep the shrooms as long as I get to keep the Catians.