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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Last time I went on vacation, the hotel wifi wouldn't let my laptop on for some reason, but my phone was fine. The portal to log in just wouldn't come up on my laptop.

So I took my phone off the wifi and just spoofed my phone's MAC address on the laptop. Did that for the whole week I was there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I did this once to get on Xbox live cause the Xbox doesn't (or didn't, idk I'm PC now) open the web portal for you to agree to.

So I just changed my hardware address to my laptop's after I went through the portal in a web browser.

No problems. That was the moment I knew I wanted to be a network engineer. The fact that it worked was just so damn cool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you've got a VPN running, it won't work. Turned it off and the prompt came right up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Nah, I don't typically run a VPN.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I didn't think of that at all! Brilliant!

[–] zeroblood 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'll probably forget to check when I get home. Does anyone know if Android randomizes the MAC address on every disconnect/connect with the random MAC option enabled?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Not by default. It remembers the MAC for each specific network. This is because sometimes you want to have specific device on the same IP all the time. The DHCP decides this via the MAC.

If you want it truly randomised every time you need to turn on non persistent MAC randomisation in the developer option.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've seen that on LineageOS 18 (based on Android 11)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS does this by default as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

my Fairphone 4's android 12 does this too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

it does for me, I'm on project elixir

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This reminds me of college. Was downloading movie torrents on my laptop while in class, just made it so it wouldn't go to sleep when you closed the lid. So the IT guys kept kicking me off, so I'd change my MAC and keep going. It got to the point where I did that so much that the IT guys were actually going around campus looking for whoever was doing it. Also I changed my MAC so much it fried the wifi card in my laptop to the point it needed replaced lmao. Good times.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How it got fried? Was it running hot all the time?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Stupid guess: Maybe the changed mac is written to e.g. an EEPROM and it ran out of write cycles and bugged out then.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

Alt: it's a simple spell but quite unbreakable.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Isn’t the MAC address fixed to the hardware? Am I growing old?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It still is if I'm correct but most operating systems have an option to spoof/randomize your MAC address

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

It is, but there are ways to spoof it so your device presents a different one when connecting to a network.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not quite. I'm not really sure but I think the original idea actually was a fixed hardware address but I'm not sure if a lot of devices actually ever implemented it that way because it's simpler (and cheaper) to control it in software. In modern (especially mobile) devices it's actually a security requirement because with a fixed MAC address you could be tracked by other wifi devices.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

With the right software, you can do anything!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

As the others said that is normally the case but nowadays most computers and mobiles have an option that randomize the MAC addresses on each connection.

These MAC addresses are known as locally-administered address. They look like this:

x2:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
x6:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
xA:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
xE:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx

And rarely like this:

x3‑xx‑xx‑xx‑xx‑xx
x7‑xx‑xx‑xx‑xx‑xx
xB‑xx‑xx‑xx‑xx‑xx
xF‑xx‑xx‑xx‑xx‑xx
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I just spent a whole week trying to prevent mac spoofing on my small wisp network network... Still trying...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You are the worst kind of person

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Just trying to live up the villain dream...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Please don't block Boeing or other funny MAC Adress prefixes. Why wouldn't you believe a 747 was using your network?