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Greetings!

A friend of mine wants to be more secure and private in light of recent events in the USA.

They originally told me they were going to use telegram, in which I explained how Telegram is considered compromised, and Signal is far more secure to use.

But they want more detailed explanations then what I provided verbally. Please help me explain things better to them! ✨

I am going to forward this thread to them, so they can see all your responses! And if you can, please cite!

Thank you! ✨

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I won't be popular in this thread, but I don't fight this battle anymore. Telegram beats Signal in virtually every aspect of user experience. If a person is unlikely to be convinced that e2ee is worth taking all the UX hits, I don't try anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I keep seeing this claim, but I may be too much of a computer nerd to notice when using them both. What does Telegram do better and how?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does it though? I have used both and I vastly prefer my experience on signal. I don't really engage with the like, "communities" aspect of telegram though so perhaps thats what I'm missing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nope, see my reply to sibling for a more complete example

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I can't see anyone else on this comment thread so I guess I must be defederated with whatever user you replied to

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Telegrsm is not secure anymore. USA have all the keys of the encriptions of telegrsm.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

You don’t have to learn Morse code.

[–] corsicanguppy -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Signal needs a phone number.

I don't want to give them one. Also I don't have one.

Oh my, that seems to eliminate Signal as an option.

Next?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Apparently Signal still requires it, though you no longer must reveal it to others.

Wired last year: Signal Finally Rolls Out Usernames, So You Can Keep Your Phone Number Private

Those features, which WIRED has tested, are designed to allow users to conceal their phone numbers as they communicate on the app and instead share a username as a less-sensitive method of connecting with one another.

Whittaker says that, for better or worse, a phone number remains a necessary requisite as the identifier Signal privately collects from its users.

[–] corsicanguppy 1 points 1 week ago

Apparently I still don't have one. Haven't had a phone number for about a decade. No SMS spam, no "survey" calls; nothing.

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