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I was sitting here wondering for a good minute what Twinks had to do with anything
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I think its kind of silly to say doing a nazi salute doesn't make you a nazi. If we don't draw the line there, we keep moving the goalpost and before yoi know it we are discussing if guantanamo bay should be used as a concentration camp for immigrants and spoiler alert, too late it will be.
It doesn't "make" him a Nazi, rather it shows once again he's long been one. After all he has directly profited off apartheid
It's a consistent critique. I was trying to play on the current argument that his salute was ambiguous, since so many of Musk's behaviors before that moment indicated his Naziness, his monarchism and fascism and unending lust for power.
But then I suck at memes, even with practice.
play on the current argument that his salute was ambiguous
But that argument is utter tosh. Anyone sprouting it is a Nazi collaborator.
Someone recently posted a comparison of Musk "sending his heart" and doing the Nazi salute. In the sending his heart gif he uses two hands to form the shape of a heart, and then gently pushes that away. In the Nazis salute gif he does a mother fucking Nazi salute.
But that argument is utter tosh. Anyone sprouting it is a Nazi collaborator.
So you're dismissing the (granted, slight) majority of voters in the United States? Or the wave of elections choosing far-right-wing parties over more of King Log's neoliberalism across Europe?
I mean you can do that. They often seem inaccessible to me. Certainly, my stanch-MAGA father is. But then the next step is for Trump's weaponized law-enforcement machine to come collect you for the detention centers.
To borrow a quote from Aliens (1986), Maybe you aren't up on current events, but we just got our asses kicked, pal!
Are all those voters arguing that what Elon did was just an innocent gesture? Or if asked would a lot of them be appalled by his use of a Nazi salute?
Just because someone voted trump doesn't instantly mean they agree with Elon doing a Nazi salute.
Trump made it super clear what he intended to do, which was entirely in line with neutering the election system and installing a one-party autocracy. Fascism is merely a tool that prolongs peace before discontentment and public unrest. War follows.
The only reason for someone had to vote for Trump was because they wanted a one-party autocracy, maybe because they agreed with the white Christian nationalist movement and its mission.
Maybe they voted for Trump out of ignorance. I'm sure some of the 77 million who vote for him fall into this category. It doesn't matter. They voted for one-party autocracy.
Maybe they voted out of criticism of the Democratic party. Maybe they were tired of neoliberalism (I sure am!) but what they voted for was one-party autocracy. Again, I suspect no small percentage of that 77 million were motivated this way. It's happening throughout Europe. But it means they get to duck and cover while King Heron chooses what frogs get eaten.
Maybe they voted for Trump because Harris was not white enough or male enough. Those people, again, voted for the one-party autocracy guy. I can't tell how many of the 77 million that voted for Trump did this, but the votes that pushed Harris out of the battleground states were single-tick voters (they voted only for Trump, leaving the rest of the ballot blank. It's a common behavior in US elections.) Guess what they voted for? (Hint, it wasn't the continuity of democracy in the US.)
And yes, a small percentage (probably millions, still) voted against Harris on a specific issue. She was a hard line corporate neoliberal probably going to do what Obama and Biden did, too little too late. Maybe they're angry because we're letting Israel massacre the whole of Palestine. I get that. But what they voted for was: You guessed it, one-party autocracy.
Trump's entire campaign was about what he'd do as dictator. Project 2025 and Agenda 47 both featured largely the objective of seizing power, consolidating it to the executive, neutering the election system and installing a one party autocracy. Trump may even be looking to being the monarch, and passing the presidency to Don Jr.
So even if Trump voters were shocked and dismayed by Musk's salute, there was an orgy of evidence and indicators that fascism, dictatorship and a fuck-the-public-twice agenda were on the table if they voted for Trump. It was a Faustian deal from the get-go and they signed on the dotted line in blood.
And in blood they will pay. We're not even at the find out phase. This is still the prologue.
But yes, absolutely, every one of the 77 million Trump-voters are responsible, not for Musk's salute, offensive or no, but that we're staring down the barrel of what it represents.
PS: I have secret hopes that there are a lot of Edmund Pevensies out there, who get they fucked up and want to make right and put heart and soul into the resistance.
Especially because I'd rather this end in overthrow and reform (the Magna Carta ending) as opposed to the China bombing Washington (the Allies storm the US ending) or the nuclear holocaust (the Dr. Strangelove ending)... but all this is speculation.
(Yes, there is the possibility that civil rights lawyers and Democratic lawyers hold off Trump's agenda and a Democrat gets voted in a mandate like Obama did in 2008, but that will only lead to four-to-eight more years of neoliberalism, after which we'll get a new autocratic usurper, and we get to play the game yet again.)
PSS: Note this moment, and the flying sabot that is DeepSeek (and make sure you know what it is) because it's about to disrupt the economic power that the tech-bros were depending on to install their camarilla around Trump. The game of thrones is about to get crazy.
Technically not a Nazi, as they were a political party. Neo-Nazi.
I would have called him a fascist and a monarchist (interested in being king, himself) but memes seem to work better using simple street language unless explaining the language itself.
e.g. The scary part is not the fascism, but the one-party autocracy, which can marry / fuck /kill the public without its consent. The fascism just slows dissent and unrest.
If Trump is Hitler, that makes Musk Himmler.
Himmler was a militay/police guy (e.g. head of the SS), the propaganda minister was Goebbels. Musk is far more similar to a propaganda minister than to an SS head.
Before his direct involvement, he was more like the BMW and Porsche moguls who financed NSDAP to put down the communists. Though now, yeah, he's trying to play as a principle official.
Little Debbie would never be involved in such evil