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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s a Masonic symbol, and Freemasonry was fashionable at the time

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't they go secular because freemasonry is essentially gnostic and sees all religion as tending towards the divine realisation?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Something like that. IIRC, Franklin, Jefferson and such were deists, i.e. believing that there’s something godlike and numinous but that something is not the Abrahamic God or anything similar, but rather some kind of sacred principle of being or something.

IIRC, Freemasonry requires one to purport to believe in a supreme being, though that is so loosely defined that one can fill the gap with a tautological definition.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

"Our country has no preferential treatment for any religion"

"One nation under God"...

"In God we Trust"...

Eye of God on all 1$ bank notes...

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i think the "under god" stuff was added later...

yeah, 1954

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apparently the pledge wasn't even a thing until the late 1800s, and wasn't adopted until the 40s.

Seems like overall is an indicator of modern jingoism and has nothing to do with founding fathers...

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In God We Trust is also an objectively less cool motto than e pluribus unum which translates to out of many, one. We traded the original ideal of a people united by difference into a boringly generic religious proclamation just to try to stick it to the commies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

The beginnings of our current Christo-fascist problems in the McCarthy red scare.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As an outsider I always cringe and laugh at anything related to these kinds of things done there and we see on tv. Random political people talking? Then they mention god and all stupid stuff. Justice things like on a judgment and people swear on bibles and shit like that. It's a cult, all of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They don't specify a particular God

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The subtext is clear and not all religions believe in a single God and not believing in God is a religious preference when talking about a state not discriminating against or in favor of a specific religion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except that Christianity is the only one with the hubris to take the generic term "god", slap a capital "G" on it, and call it the name of their god. Capital-G-God is the one that keeps being used, even by you...