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My time with Linux has been equal parts amazing and absolutely infuriating. Linux Mint is NOT usable out of the box. Here have been my issues:

Nvidia GPU - Trying to figure out how to get the drivers working was a nightmare with ten million different people giving different advice on how to get it to work. Eventually I was able to get them signed and it seems to work

Bluetooth - Another nightmare. Bluetooth is terrible on Linux. It took hours to get it even remotely working ok, but I still don't think it's perfect.

Compatibility - Some things just straight up don't work for seemingly no reason. None of my controllers work with Steam, no matter how many countless hours I've spent troubleshooting.

And that is where I am disappointed. Troubleshooting Linux issues sucks. There are so many people giving their opinions and all of them are different and most don't work.

When Linux is working right it is amazing, and I love it. But right now, it just isn't as good as Windows and extremely infuriating more often than not. Guess I am going to switch back and give Bill Gates all of my info again. Really fucking disappointing

Update: Controllers seem to work after forcing compatibility mode in Steam. No idea why that was off or why Steam was essentially hijacking my controller, but it seems to work now. For everyone that helped thank you.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Use cachy or bazzite, both are supposed to work well with ndvida theres also nodora

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

My bluetooth works with cachy at least is all I can tell you lol

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 days ago (31 children)

Looks like you used hardware that was designed for windows and are blaming it now on Linux.

I am not understanding the issue you have that requires signing of drivers.

Yes some Bluetooth devices lack the support from the manufacturer's for Linux, the Controllers i have used work great, at least for my needs.

Controllers have better support Linux for ages. Not understanding the issue here either.

Troubleshooting on Windows sucks at least to the same degree. The same non specific error message gets you 50 possible solutions.

No need to announce your departure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The reality is, people will be using Linux on Windows hardware, people won't build special computers just for Linux or buy a premade Linux computer, they'll flash Linux on their Windows computer expecting it to work and get annoyed if it doesn't, the person in the post is making very valid points and those issues should be worked on

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago

Linux Mint is NOT usable out of the box.

I set Mint up for my 65 year old mother about 4 years ago, and she hasn't had a single issue since. I think it's less about Mint being usable out of the box and more about Mint not doing what you want out of the box...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I’m sorry to hear you’ve had so much trouble with Linux. I understand the frustration that comes with Unix based OSes especially after being a heavy Windows user for years.

I did a bit of searching on your profile and saw you’re dual-booting with Windows on the same hard drive. I personally had issues with trying to set that up myself (Windows is a finicky, jealous b****). My own solution was installing my distro of choice onto a separate hard drive - if you can eventually do that I recommend it.

I know you’re getting a lot of flak for your post but it’s good to see honest opinions from people who genuinely want to try Linux but aren’t necessarily the same level of hyper-nerd as the typical demographic here.

Having information from a wider opinion pool will help in understanding how to get Linux to more of the population - but that’s a side tangent.

It’s encouraging to see that you are still open to trying in the future and taking a break from it can help you clear your head and come back with fresher eyes.

Unfortunately I don’t have much experience with NVIDIA drivers, and probably a similar amount of troubleshooting as Mint but I’ve found EndeavourOS to be friendlier to a middle-upper tech/gamer use case. Mint, for me, seemed cold and “office”-y and didn’t work well for me as I don’t only use my browser and word processor.

That said, distros are an almost ridiculously personal choice and part of that is trial and error. If you haven’t gotten the chance I recommend test driving a couple other distros in an Oracle VM (for user-friendliness) so you can decide what you like the feel of before committing to an install again, if and when you feel ready.

Good luck and godspeed until then.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the reply. My next build will not have windows on it at all, If I can help it. Honestly mint is great and was working amazing until I had to reinstall it.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I can see everyone down voting you to oblivion... And that's sort of fair. But that's beside the point.

I was having trouble with NVIDIA while using mint early on and decided to switch to Fedora. Maybe try that once. Fedora has better defaults for nvidia.

Use the KDE Plasma spin btw. See if it works.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Thanks, I might try that if a new install doesn't work

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

People are downvoting your comments about your actual experience and that’s not helpful.

Folks, please don’t downvote an unpopular (to you) opinion. Instead, try to prove for more info and provide your expertise to help someone try to have a better experience. The point is to help someone learn how to enjoy Linux, not hate them for not liking it. Don’t be counterproductive and solidify a bad reputation of Linux users.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

It's probably because I come off as a whiny bitch, which I do. Lol just frustrated.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've been on and off with Linux for about 15 years and just want to counter some of the people trying to troubleshoot or criticize to say: it can be really tough.

We need our computers to work and we expect things to function correctly.

I've used dozens of distros over the years. I was a super early Arch adopter, mained Gentoo for about three years, ran my own BSD server for programming projects, and still maintain several small home Linux servers. And even I sometimes want to pull my hair out trying to get semi-new hardware working right in my distro of choice. I spent three hours today fighting Nvidia and sound drivers and eventually just had to give up on that machine after being told that what I want just flat out isn't supported in Linux on the hardware I have.

Take a breath, set it aside until you're ready to take another crack at it, and know that it's a journey. You'll get there or the software will catch up and meet you halfway. No shame in being frustrated :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanks so much! I appreciate it. Already giving it another go with Pop OS

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Those are not normal problems. Linux generally does work out of the box unless you’ve got weird or new hardware.

Mint usually does the trick ez peasy and that’s why it’s recommended so much. BUT, sometimes it craps on your hardware. I’d actually suggest trying a different distro before you make up your mind. Some are newer than mint and might work where mint doesn’t.

Might I suggest fedora workstation or popos? Fedora and the rpm fusion team make installing nvidia a breeze and it’s running pretty recent kernels and code. I’ve never run popos but it seems to be gaming focused and people generally like it.

If your having the same issues, then you probably do have some hardware incompatibilities. And if that’s the case, you have my condolences-you’d be better off just sticking with something that works - aka windows.

But please do believe me/us when I say you shouldn’t have to work that hard - mint is either too old, or you’ve got wonky hardware that is going to be a pain no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I appreciate the response. I fixed my current issue, but honestly I'm thinking off messing with other distros. We'll see.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

If you come with expectations that you’ll just be fully catered no matter what your setup is and expect things to just work without ever trying to understand problems, you sure can be disappointed. Believe or not, most of the time those issues are out of control for Linux or the distros, as your hardware vendor made it to work on Windows and Windows only. Community is here to help you, but with your attitude it gets difficult no matter how much others try to help.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (6 children)

fucking hate bluetooth ngl, it's a horrendous standard that doesn't do what I want it to do and even when it can it fails horribly and is unbearably unreliable

how did you install the nvidia drivers btw? I thought in mint there was a "driver manager" thingy that installed it for you with one click

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe Linux isn't the solution you are looking for in this case? I use Linux whenever I can, especially at home because I have far fewer problems than with windows. But it's not a panacea, and if it's easier to use windows then use windows.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Use Pop Os, perfect for nvidia GPU support out of the box.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

About NVIDIA: yeah, Nvidia on Linux is a big, big mess. Things are improving but it's still a pain in the ass sometimes. Maybe some of your issues could be solved by changing to another Desktop Enviroment.

About Bluetooth: I don't know how recent your hardware is, but maybe changing to a newer kernel (preferably a more up to date Distro, like Fedora) would solve it.

About Compatibility: I don't know what controllers you are using. I personally had issues with Xbox Wireless Controller drivers, and after some searching I easily fixed it with xpadneo, maybe that could help.

Mint is usually a great distro for beginners, BUT it sometimes sacrifices shiny new updates for stability (which is a good feature of Mint), that's why I recommend you to try Fedora. Good luck with your Linux adventure 😃

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Thanks for the response I appreciate it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I use Pop!_OS and have had zero issues getting my Nvidia GPU to work on it, so that or a similar Linux distro that has good Nvidia driver support might be worth checking out.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Mint isn't the platform for gaming on Linux. It's way behind on a lot of things like display drivers. Try something like Bazzite or Nobara that have a ton of tweaks for both Nvidia and steam. Honestly, I'm really shying away from recommending Mint to new users, it's getting really stale.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think you are addressing the issues wrong.

Unsupported hardware is a reality in Linux, even if I didn't find any in the last 10+ years, my needs are much more limited.

Controllers do work just fine, as well as Bluetooth, in my experience. Maybe share some issues and let's see why.

Troubleshooting in Linux means understand why stuff don't work as you expect, not copypasta 50 different solutions. There are 50 solutions because there are 100 ways to do stuff and different distros and versions out there. The "unified" experience is from the windows world, not the Linux world.

Nvidia is a known issue on Linux, prrprietary drivers kind of sucks and there are no good open ones, at least for newish nvidia cards. But again, my experience with nvidia has always been very good, with proprietary drivers.

Steam, I used it trough wine to run windows games on Linux, with good success (1 game, so YMMV), and I found it amazing that it was even possible to do. But never used controllers

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

Normally I don't suggest distro-hopping for newbies but sometimes it's a good idea to try a couple distro before settling in. Since there are tons of different hardware, some distros offer a better out of the box solution for some hardware.

Try openSUSE Leap for instance. ~~Also someone suggested trying KDE Plasma on Mint, so try that first. It might alone solve your problems.~~

By the way, if your need for Windows can be covered on a virtual machine, go that way instead of dual boot. Windows really can mess with your bootloader.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

i had a similarly confusing and frustrating experience when trying Ubuntu on a netbook many years ago. It has come a long way since then but sometimes you can get a bunch of annoying issues all at once.

It could just be bad luck with the hardware you have (no one really ever cares about the bluetooth adapter in their system until it causes issues) or Mint being behind the bleeding edge.

You might find Fedora KDE to be more compatible with your setup, or you can leave it a bit longer and check back later. No harm in patience!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I've been using Linux Mint for 2 weeks now. Everything worked out of the box. No nVidia driver problem, controller works fine, can't speak for Bluetooth since I don't use it. I only scratched my head on the Joplin synchronization with my phone using Syncthing, which was fixed after maybe 10min of tinkering. Haven't rebooted to my backup windows install since. 10/10 would recommend.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (11 children)

I started using mint a year ago and had no such issues. What hardware are you running out on?

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