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You know, DOGE, fascist president and corporations dictating what people can do, institutions being ruined, laws being ignored. Is there any way out of that or is it over? Is the USA done?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I mean in the sense that we have been going down since the millenium. I mean we really really rank at the bottom of industrialized nations for quality of life. The big question is if china or india can surpass us really. and by surpass I mean watch as we slow and eventually are behind them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It depends on if Barron Trump is like his father or not.

Because that is who Trump has chosen to lead once Trump dies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

laws being ignored

first time?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I would say so. The only question is whether the good guys win a civil war. My money is on 'yes', since Yarvin's Cabal is hellbent on exiling all of the competent people from their society, along with being jackasses who have alienated many peoples. It will be a bloody struggle, but I think that Dogey America will ultimately receive the Old Yeller treatment. I only hope that every member of Yarvin's Cabal are executed - Elon, Thiel, ect.

Let's not make the mistakes of the 1st Civil War, 1st Business Plot, and 2nd World War, where many high ranking members were permitted to escape justice.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

It’s fucking toast

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

A lot of people are discussing the legal or revolutionary frameworks, but there’s a very human story to all of this. The government is run by people, and people are human. They make mistakes, backstab one another, get sick. They compete for different goals & subvert. It’s politics.

Morality is about respecting other moral agents, but it’s also about self-defeating principles. If you constantly lie, then there is no trust. Without trust, there’s room for speculation, rumor, & fear. Everyone on eggshells constantly. That’s partially why these fascist systems aren’t sustainable. However, as the world has become interconnected, so have the global elite. Fascism isn’t just here: it’s in a lot of places. There’s likely secret (and not so secret) actors pulling those strings, not to sound conspiratorial.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction in physics. Like others have said, I’m not sure about my faith in the USA, as it is today: 50 states and some territories holding “together”. The culture and economy of the Northeast is vastly different than the Southeast. The USA absolutely had its hand in much of global politics over the last 100 years. Russia was the USSR in the 80s (~40 years ago); I think this is our “equal and opposite” moment of a world power fracturing. My expectation is the USA splits up, but I’m not sure what comes next. I don’t know if that’s “screwed”, but it’s not as it is today.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Waiting for a repeat of Jan 6 from the other side, or a civil war, or the sovcits to take over, or all of the above, or some other unknown catastrophe.

Whatever disasters may or may not have come about due to “bad” presidents in the past will pale in comparison to the events of the next few years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

As you failed to prevent fascism at the voting booth, you will have to learn how to stop it now. This is the situation the second amendment had been written for. After being abused to allow criminals and mentally removed to get access to weapons they should never have, you can now put them to good use.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Although there's a lot of knee-jerk reaction in some circles, Trump issuing EOs that are illegal and unenforceable only go as far as all the other vitriol that slides it's way out of his mouth creases. Plenty of things he does are blocked by judges, including his demand that only him and his AG are allowed to interpret the law. It just doesn't work like that. Although the possibility of things being escalated and allowed through a compromised supreme Court still exists, it hasn't happened yet. I'm not giving into the mania while checks and balances still actually do exist.

Corporations dictating what people can do has been happening basically my whole life.

DOGE is another story. It's very bad, yeah, but I'm not sure how it affects me personally in my day-to-day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you like cancer research? How about fighting forest fires? Averting mid-air plane collisions?

DOGE sure hates all of those.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Honestly we were screwed long before now, but yes. Its going to be a slow decline into fascism until we collectively wise up. I do think there's a real possibility of that happening, but its going to take a lot of work.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nah it's gonna get looted and pillaged and generally go to shit but will be saved by the aheer economic power of being one of the few places left on earth with enough farmland to feed billions when the other breadbaskets start getting decimated by ecological collapse

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