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German Election 2025 Live: Conservative CDU wins and far-right AfD in second place, exit polls show (www.reuters.com)

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So... 19.5% of Germans are fucking Nazis.
Plus ça change...

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Nazis won’t be part of the government after this result. The conservatives have stated before the election that they won’t form a coalition with the far right AfD, the green party or the left party. But with this result, they have a majority with the social democrats alone.

This will be a stable, centrist, boring government, typically German. Too little progress, but no catastrophe, and no threat to EU democracy, nor to international obligations or support for Ukraine. Neither party are Putin bootlickers either.

In the opposition, the greens and the left combined have more seats than the AfD. And 84% turnout is the highest since 1987!!!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Nazis won’t be part of the government after this result

That's not what I said. What I said is that I find it deplorable that a fifth of the population of Germany - yes, THAT GERMANY - is happily eating the cold vomit their country puked on the world 85 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wasn't trying to refute anything you said, just adding context.
The election was a warning, but the demonstrations before it gave me hope, and the result shows that Germany's political system is resilient even against 20% Nazis.
(I personally believe that 20% Nazis in Germany is almost a constant. It certainly hasn't changed much in the 40 years I've been alive.)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Germany’s political system is resilient even against 20% Nazis.

...for now.

The problem is, like you said, Germany will form a bland unappealing, reasonable coalition government that won't rock the boat, pushing more dissatisfied voters into the arms of the AfD. And one day, the extremists will win and then it'll be game over.

But for now yes, Germany is safe.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

a fifth of the population of Germany

A 20% of 84% eligible voters, or about 17% eligible voters, or about 15% of the population.

Keep in mind that if the turnout had been like the US2024's 64%, that result could have been anywhere between 0% and 26%, depending on who decided not to vote.

That's after all the manipulation from Musk and Russia. A lot of those people would act as surprised and betrayed as some in the US have over the past month. For starters, the AfD co-leader, an anti-immigrant pro-Nazi eurosceptic anti-democratic fascist Musky party that's pushing traditional family values... has herself an immigrant same-sex partner with whom she's raising two kids. Makes me think of a Serena Waterford case. 🤦

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A 20% of 84% eligible voters, or about 17% eligible voters, or about 15% of the population.

This is not reassuring.

15% of a population being Nazis is not reassuring in any country. But in Germany, the home of Nazism, that was utterly destroyed by Nazism, it's even scarier.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

It gets more interesting with a map of the votes:

East Germany, vs. West Germany.

It's been somewhat of a theme in countries that endured USSR influence, to run a "commie scare" and fall straight into the arms of a neo-lib alt-right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty sure AfD's Alice Weidel additionally doesn't even live in Germany but in Switzerland.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

If CDU and AFD won't coalesce but CDU will look to AFD to pass legislation, where does that leave us?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Nazis having so much power in Germany really makes me lose faith in humanity. We went through this shit before, have we learned nothing?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nazis running the show in the US of all places is what makes me lose faith in humanity.

Germany... They had the sickness once, they have it again. Surprising and sad, but it seems the vaccination didn't even last a century.

But the US cured Germany of the disease. And now they've got it!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tbf, Hitler was influenced by Jim Crow....

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Don't forget Henry Ford.