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[SWE] Swedish government wants a back door in Signal (www.svt.se)

submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Swedish government wants a back door in signal for police and 'Säpo' (Swedish federation that checks for spies)

Let's say that this becomes a law and Signal decides to withdraw from Sweden as they clearly state that they won't implement a back door; would a citizen within the country still be able to use and access Signals services? Assuming that google play services probably would remove the Signal app within Sweden (which I also don't use)

I just want the government to go f*ck themselves, y'know?

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is why you should prefer a better protocol like SimpleX

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

let's say that signal is magically blocked in Sweden, can you still use Molly?

https://droidify.eu.org/app/?id=im.molly.app or https://github.com/mollyim/mollyim-android

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, probably not. They both speak the same protocol and talk to the same servers.

Unless the block was a app store distribution restriction only

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It probably is/was/will be just the app store.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Even if it's not Molly could implement Tor or any sort of bridge to bypass these restrictions (such as Signal themselves)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Then they get it through fdroid?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Briar has entered the chat

(No central servers and everything goes through Tor, try blocking that!)

[–] Greg 6 points 3 days ago

Sweden… more like snitchden… amirite?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

They will probably just show message to Swedish ip addresses and state that they cannt provide you with the binary as you are using a Swedish ip.

Something very clear to say use a VPN 😉

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is where Signal's biggest problem shows. It's centralized. Matrix is the better choice since it will be up to you if you decide to break the law if it's banned, since there will still be plenty of servers you can reach.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (8 children)

yes. but transition takes time and my mom just installed signal last year. we will get there for sure.

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