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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

time to move back to pale moon? is that still a thing?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

These Terms only apply to the Executable Code version of Firefox, not the Firefox source code.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/firefox/

Thus, the answer turns in whether any Firefox binaries are used or distributed with LibreWolf. On the LibreWolf website, I don't even see any binaries for LibreWolf that they host, except the Windows binary. For all other OS, they refer to that OS's package manager. But even still, there is nothing to suggest that any Mozilla-compiled binaries are in LibreWolf, which only has source code commonality with Mozilla Firefox.

The answer appears to be: no.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That is interesting. I wonder if it applies to the Debian package, which debian.org presumably compiles.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You can't put terms of service on a web page and bind people to it. Otherwise I could put up a site somewhere and say everyone who reads this owes me a dollar.

The terms are only enforceable when they are presented to the user before they use the software. My copy of Librewolf doesn't present any terms to me so I am not bound by anything other than the redistribution license.

IANAL but all this is pretty common sense. You can't add terms by posting them where the user wouldn't see them. And Librewolf explains very clearly that it is not Firefox and is not a Mozilla product.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I could put up a site somewhere and say everyone who reads this owes me a dollar.

Well, you guys all read it. Give this guy a dollar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Can I just type my credit card number here or, ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

Bump, was just searching for a replacement.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago

An uptick in users/popularity

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Basically, "If you choose to use the AI stuff, we're gonna track how you use it so we can fix bugs and stuff."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

It's quite a bit more then that actually... https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/firefox/ states

You give Mozilla all rights necessary to operate Firefox, including processing data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice, as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet. When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.

A very broad, basically unrestricted license to any and all input you make (mouse clicks, keystrokes, file uploads, ...) for a very vague purpose.

Additionally, it says you ought to follow the Mozilla Acceptable Use Policy which includes not at all problematic things like

  • no illegal stuff. Illegal where? We don't know! (Do anything illegal or otherwise violate applicable law)
  • sending a message to someone without asking first. How? We don't know! (... send unsolicited communications ...)
  • no troll account, no parody accounts (Deceive, mislead, defraud, phish, or commit or attempt to commit identity theft)
  • no illegal gambling. Again, illegal where? Who knows! (Engage in or promote illegal gambling)
  • don't buy controlled drugs, even if a doctor prescribed them (Sell, purchase, or advertise illegal or controlled products or services)
  • no porn, no LGBT memes (Upload, download, transmit, display, or grant access to content that includes graphic depictions of sexuality or violence)
  • no torrents, no youtube downloads (Violate the copyright, trademark, patent, or other intellectual property rights of others)

What a fun and totally sensible list of restrictions for a "free" web browser to have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

"Hey firefox, what are some code vunerabilities in firefox?"

firefox explodes

Found the first bug. It didn't tell me the vunerabilities.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago