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Firefox maker Mozilla deleted a promise to never sell its users' personal data and is trying to assure worried users that its approach to privacy hasn't fundamentally changed. Until recently, a Firefox FAQ promised that the browser maker never has and never will sell its users' personal data. An archived version from January 30 says:

Does Firefox sell your personal data?

Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That's a promise.

That promise is removed from the current version. There's also a notable change in a data privacy FAQ that used to say, "Mozilla doesn't sell data about you, and we don't buy data about you."

The data privacy FAQ now explains that Mozilla is no longer making blanket promises about not selling data because some legal jurisdictions define "sale" in a very broad way:

Mozilla doesn't sell data about you (in the way that most people think about "selling data"), and we don't buy data about you. Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of "sale of data" is extremely broad in some places, we've had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love. We still put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share with our partners (which we need to do to make Firefox commercially viable) is stripped of any identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

Mozilla didn't say which legal jurisdictions have these broad definitions.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (23 children)

Oh for fuck's sake! List of Firefox alternatives:

Windows/Linux/MacOS:

Android:

iOS: ??

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Librewolf is mostly a autoconfig file for Firefox (which is a Firefox feature).

https://codeberg.org/librewolf/settings/raw/branch/master/librewolf.cfg

I doubt implementation of terms will be optional.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't they be optional? Every other change like this has been before.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

There’s also Servo by the Linux Foundation and Ladybird.

These are actual different browsers and engines all together compared to FF spin-offs.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago

I'm still super waiting for Lady Bird. I cannot wait to give it a try, but it's gonna be like 2026 before they start rolling out builds for general use.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

I'm excited for these to mature but they are still developing and would not recommend them for regular use

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm giving Waterfox a test drive and like it so far. No issues.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm considering adding it to the alternatives list I posted. Can anybody else validate their privacy policy? Seemd ok but I'm a bit iffy regarding their use of telemetry. Maybe I'm overthinking it

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I read somewhere that Librewolf is not recommended because they are a small team and slow to patch vulnerabilities / integrate security fixes from Firefox.

Is it true? (Sincere question)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

Too new to recommend, IMO.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Everything turns to shit in the end.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm using Fennec (based on Firefox, sans telemetry). Is there a good, reliable, and trustable way to export my bookmarks so I don't have to depend on Firefox Sync?

Edit: forgot to say: on Android.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I use Floccus cause it syncs to nextcloud bookmarks.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone recommend an iOS alternative?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

On iOS, all browsers are Safari with a coat of paint.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Nowadays that’s incorrect if you’re in the European Union.

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