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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

I think having our national armies more interconnected would be better than a federal army.

I simply fear the risk of having a federal army being abused at some point to intervene in internal / national affairs of an EU country is too high. Yes we're living without mass civil unrest right now, but think about future possibilities. Imagine a country would experience a revolution or fall into a civil war. The federal army could be deployed and there's no guarantee it will support the right side.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Here is my problem: EU gets invaded by Russia, vote is called to mobilize. Hungary says no.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

No veto rights for single member states regarding the army would help.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

If shit really hits the fan, noone will give a shit about formalities, and especially about Hungary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I’m under the impression that the idea of an unified EU army is that they would be able to act independently in case of an attack, no need for votes or bureaucracy.

If that’s not the case, then yeah that’s a problem

[–] [email protected] 2 points 45 minutes ago

maybe if we start with a "Territorial Defense Force" first, and they just have standing orders, it would work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

It was the USA who opposed in the first place against creation of an European Army. And now they are stabbing us from the back, fuckin' traitors.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It absolutely is. The way it looks, we will be lucky if US won't outright back Russia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

A situation where Russia invades EU and US immediately after invades greenland, no longer looks so impossible to me

[–] [email protected] 20 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

This is something that worries me.
I bet most Americans would go 'Oh yeah Oceania and Eurasia has always been allies.'

[–] [email protected] 15 points 13 hours ago

Start today.

We blew it in 1952, let 2025 be our wake-up call