Version 2 of the European app alternatives. Feel free to share it :)
I wish there would be some good european LLMs for agentic coding..
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i found codestral. not as good as claude of course but it might become a viable alternative
Why am I betting bolt probably isn't going to be a viable ride service option for americans
no its ok
What?
bolt is okay, or what do you mean its not viable for americans? why not?
Because as of Feb 2024, it still hasn't rolled out to the US
And their availability page seems to correlate that.
Besides, even if it did, it would take years for it to become accessible to people not living in a big city. It took a long time for Lyft rides to even start showing up where I was in a mildly dense suburb. Ride share usage depends on supply, and if there's no, or a low supply of bolt drivers, there's going to be little to no usage from customers because "I need to go now, I'll just get an Uber"
I'd suggest adding waze on there to be replaced with tomtom amigo as an alternative Also infomaniak as an email alternative You're missing Google Drive -> Filen or Infomaniak
Edit: To clarify, I'm talking about REPLACING waze WITH Tomtom Amigo because waze is google. Seems like that wasn't clear in the original message.
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Aren't almost all of these quite terrible?
Aren't many of the mainstream offers terrible as well, in their own special way?
DeepL is better than Google Translate for the languages it supports. I find that it captures the context better when words have multiple meanings. Some features are paid, for example, translating a text to an informal context (Sie vs du in German).
It does not support as many languages as Google, though. Most European languages are supported.
Between DeepL and Wiktionary, I find I don't even need Google Translate anymore.
I wonder why you think so. Some like Peertube & Threema are definitely poor alternatives but I wouldn't say it's "almost all" either.
- Deezer vs Apple Music/Tidal: Deezer has a great selection of music and recommendation algorithm. I've never used Tidal but Deezer is definitely better than Apple Music IMO.
- Tuta/Mailbox.org/Posteo vs Gmail: Well, they all let you send and receive emails. Unless you're an enterprise user, I don't see what advantage Gmail would have over the others.
- HERE WeGo vs Google Maps: Very recently installed HERE and didn't have any issues so far. This can be a bit location-dependent though.
- Ecosia vs Google: Ecosia uses Bing/Google^1^ as its search index anyway, so the results are almost exactly the same for me.
- DeepL Translate vs Google Translate: DeepL has a more limited selection of languages but for the languages it supports, it's the undisputed king.
- Bolt vs Uber: I only used Bolt a few times while I was in Portugal and it seemed fine. Maybe this is also location-dependent.
^1^I think it's Bing by default but you can configure it to use Google in the settings.
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https://arcanechat.me/ is also European (Germany) and is decentralized, fully OpenSource, free/gratis and registration requires ZERO personal data! Everything is End-to-end encrypted between people, server can't see any data which is encrypted and stored only temporarily on the server