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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Damn, this thread is the most "no one hates Doctor Who more than Doctor Who fans" type beat I've seen in ages. God forbid our favourite television show get another season.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

If the rumours that DW is going to be put on hiatus for 10 years and the sets taken down and production staff let go I can only say… it’s about time.

The (original) show was never about cartoony, fizzed-up comic action without subtlety or nuance that tried to pick up the audiences of Strictly and Love Island. It didn’t need a budget of $1 million per episode. It didn’t need Disney. Time for a rest and then a regeneration.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Season 2? Did I miss a reboot? Lmao

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Yeah they did a soft reboot right after Tennant came back

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they went to season 1 when they launched on d+

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

when they did what? Have i been living under a rock?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

they air worldwide on d+ and on iplayer in the UK.

disney got distribution rights and funds them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

No you didn't. It's absolute horseshit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

They destroyed this show with modern audience bullshit. It used to be a great escape from reality, and now it's just more propaganda. It really sucks because Jodie Whittaker and Ncuti Gatwa could have been soooo much better at the roles if it weren't for the horrid writing.

David Tennant and Matt Smith were peak Doctor Who. Even Eccleston (the twat) had a great story arc...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I'm not super familiar with Eccleston's politics but he had some amazing stories while in the Tardis and what he has spoken of his leaving the series, which has been entirely backed up by everyone who spoke about it after, was entirely due to mistreatment from higher ups to the little people that make the show work.

Maybe I have a huge blindspot but I don't see much reason to get mad at him when he brought up some legitimate concerns, and his departure was a catalyst for conditions improving.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

They destroyed this show with modern audience bullshit.

Yeah. Everything after Pertwee kind of lost it's way. Lol.

[–] remotelove 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I am hopefully going to get the chance to talk to Jodie in the next couple of months(Denver fan fest), and I am going ask her how she tolerated the writers for her episodes. (I have a bit to figure out how word that nicely.

She is probably my second favorite Dr to Tennant, FWIW.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I need to rewatch Jodie's seasons again. Thought she was a brilliant actor doing the best she could with the script/stories presented. No idea how things got so bad but she was one of the few good things about those days.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

She won't talk negatively about them. None of them will. Not for not wanting to, I'm sure - but out of professionalism. I don't think any of the previous actors would either. Although...maybe Eccleston would (the twat)...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dude, what is your beef with Eccleston?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bludgeoning social matters into everyone's heads using garbage storylines. Like Time Traveling Space-Nazis trying to sit in Rosa Parks seat...

The constant references to racism, equality, blah blah blah blah...

Doctor Who has always had these things as a subtext to their episodes but that's what they were...SUBTEXT. They weren't front-and-center bludgeon you over the head with ongoing social issues shit.

That's why everyone stopped watching and why their viewership is in the trash.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I think what you're trying to say is that the social commentary has lost a lot of nuance, as well as the general quality of the writing going down, in which case I agree. Kinda toeing the line of the 'everything is woke now' crowd though, to which I would say you haven't seen/understood much Doctor Who if you think social issues are only recently a part of the stories.

For the record the Rosa Parks ep was one of my favourites for Jodie, but it's a low bar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I mean I'm definitely on the left-progressive end of the spectrum but even I thought the writing got too "woke", or rather too on the nose.

The worst one imo was the giant spider in the hotel owned by a Trumpian figure. "Trump" wanted to shoot it, but the Doctor wouldn't let him because that would be wrong. Instead, she let it "humanely" suffocate itself to death, locking all of its offspring in a room to cannibalize themselves and die.

I never thought I'd find myself more sympathetic towards the Trumplike figure rather than the Doctor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Kinda toeing the line of the 'everything is woke now' crowd though to which I would say you haven't seen/understood much Doctor Who if you think social issues are only recently a part of the stories.

I covered that already with

Doctor Who has always had these things as a subtext to their episodes

Everyone knows that Doctor Who has always had this kind of social subtext; but it was more moral dilemmas on a broad scale, rather than specific ongoing social issues in the real world.

Like the way they did the Ood. It was a soft introduction, up until the point where we find out why they are like that and then The Doctor works on fixing it.

That's great -- sometimes parallels to our own social issues can make for a great story; so long as the story is focused on first and foremost and the approach isn't solely on trying to push that particular social viewpoint.

As it is now, I wouldn't be surprised if they made a big orange president try to give up his nation to the daleks as an episode...