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There might be some changes that could improve it further:

  • ~~Remove Brave~~
  • ~~Maybe add Signal; It's easier than Element, but it's also centralized~~
  • Stop suggesting Linux Mint specifically
  • Recommend Hosted Nextcloud
  • ~~Add GrapheneOS~~
  • Maybe add Delta chat
  • ~~Maybe remove Bluesky~~
  • ~~Remove Stremio and add Jellfyin (even though it's selfhosted and not a direct equivalent)~~
  • ~~Add ente because Immich is selfhosted~~
  • ~~Add aurora~~
  • ~~Add SearxNG~~
  • Add SimpleX
  • Add lichess
  • Add pCloud

Any other suggestions?

Temporary improved version:

From To Compromise
X, Threads Mastodon Bluesky
Instagram Pixelfed
YouTube PeerTube ReVanced (just blocks adds)
Reddit Lemmy
Netlix, Disney+ ๐Ÿ”จ Jellyfin
Google Meet, Zoom Jitsi Meet
Google Docs Etherpad
Google Search ๐Ÿ”จ SearxNG Kagi, Ecosia
Google Drive Nextcloud pCloud, filen, Proton Drive
Google Photos, iCloud Immich Ente
Google Chrome Librewolf, Firefox Ungoogled-chromium
All messaging apps Element (matrix) Signal
Google Home, Amazon Alexa Home Assistant
Play Store F-droid, Aurora
Google Android, iOS LineageOS, GrapheneOS
Windows, MacOS Linux Mint

๐Ÿ”จ = Self-Hosted only (requires running a server)

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I recently moved Gmail, Google Docs and Sheets, Google Keep (tasks) and Drive to Mailbox.org. It's super affordable and works really well. You can edit docs/sheets online or offline. No self-hosting required. I recommend it. It's located in Germany.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My problem with Jellyfin is that I'd need something like Google Chromecast for it. AFAIK all those dongles are American. Raspberry pi doesn't cut it unfortunately.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's one problem I have come across. Roku, Apple, Google, Amazon. They make great streaming devices but they'll all track you. The best answer I have is a PC attached to your TV.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

instead of matrix id say SimpleX-chat it uses tor a lot more

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Element is owned by a company and likes to collect a shit load of data... i'll never understand people that vouch for matrix

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I recently found edupad.ch for collaborative writing.

It's very simple, and - most important of all - doesn't require an account.

I'm using it for the first time, so I don't have much of a review, but the first impression is very good for my use case.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use Nextcloud as a similar way as Google Drive or Google Photos. But it's self-hosted and not for the mass.

I would recommend a mail service for drive. Most are quite stingy with storage. Mailbox.org or Infomaniak.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's very affordable to rent a hosted nextcloud instance on a European server. I love nextcloud. It's my data storage, webmailer, calendar and contacts sync, collaborative office, shared finance manager and so much more!

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I want to see Koofr up there among the clouds.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

So that includes Firefox- their privacy rules have recently changed. We need a Europe based Europe made ideally non profit so canโ€™t be sold to US browser and search engine. Chromium based or Firefox forks donโ€™t count because they can claim some ownership or take data. We want full quarantine separation, itโ€™s like a disease

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What's the alternative for gmail / Google calendar etc.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Why is no one mentioning Delta as alternative chat app? it is neat, has bots and mini apps, multi device too.

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