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I had everything in my Dropbox: all my legal documents, my work-related files, my photos from the last 20 years, and things people sent me that I want to look at again when I'm 80… I literally had my life stored in it (and of course locally on two machines and a extra backup disk). I also accessed it almost daily via my phone and uploaded files from my phone.

So, I tested several services in the range of ~100 Euros a year with at least 1,5 Terabytes:

Jottacloud:

Good Desktop Client (Win & Mac)
Very good iOS App
Good service
Pricey (144 Euros for unlimited storage)
Downside for me: it doesn't automatically convert photo uploads from my phone to JPG and doesn't store them in a folder I choose – plus, the price is high.

Filen:

Good Desktop Client (Win & Mac)
Rough iOS App
Good service
Okay price (108 Euros for 2TB)
Downside for me: the rough iOS App didn't have a document upload with a scan function.

Nextcloud:

Good Desktop Client (Win & Mac)
Good iOS App
No dedicated service; it's Open Source, so some tinkering is required since you manage the hosting yourself.
Weird price range (Hetzner, the cheapest host by far, offers either 60 Euros for 1TB or 200 Euros for 5TB, nothing in between).
Downside for me: the price range.

kDrive:

Good Desktop Client (Win & Mac)
Very good iOS App
Amazing service, document editing included, etc.
Amazing price (60 Euros per year for 3TB)
Downside for me: none.

So, I chose kDrive, even though I'd love to use Nextcloud because it's Open Source and you can choose your own host. If I needed less than 1TB, I'd definitely choose Nextcloud.

And it should be said that all the services I tested offer free options with a few Gigabytes, if that's all you need.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

If you're looking to buy European and need cloud storage that can never decrypt or access your files, then Internxt is another option. We are based in Spain, and we offer subscription, lifetime, family and business plans, which all include an antivirus and VPN :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you have at least one system which is always on and online somewhere, you can synchronise files within your own managed ring with syncthing. It does require having enough space on each device for the synced files, but it has its uses. It can also sync specific folders with specific devices, so you could choose to not synchronise all of that ~1.5TB with mobile devices. As an example of how I use it; I sync my mobile's photos folder with my NAS for sorting into the larger Pictures collection once I get to it, then just access that NAS when needed. A secure DynDNS service could give access to that NAS from other locations where required. Best of all; Syncthing is FREE.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, that's a great option too. Maybe you should make a post about Syncthing, this approach probably deserves some visibility

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Hetzner Storage Share (Nextcloud) is super cheap, managed and runs very well for me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wanted to ask you, does it give access to a whole Nextcloud instance, including apps like Talk (https://nextcloud.com/talk/)? Or is it only file storage?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It should be a complete Nextcloud installation with all preinstalled apps included. Otherwise they would not be allowed to advertise it as a "Nextcloud" installation and would be obliged to remove all branding.

~~I would like to put a link to the official Nextcloud guidline on that topic but I can't find it~~

https://nextcloud.com/trademarks/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Perfect, great!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm having a look now, it says 5.19€ per month max and 0.0083€ per hour, with a page saying

How precisely does Hetzner calculate the hourly billing?

The beginning of the hourly billing starts as soon as the product becomes available to you. We always round up when calculating the hourly use. If you only use the product for a few minutes, we will charge you a full hour. If you use the product for close to a month, and the montly price is cheaper, we will always charge you the cheaper monthly price rather than a higher hourly price.

https://docs.hetzner.com/general/others/new-billing-model

So in the case of a Nextcloud service, Hetzner would only bill the hours during which I sync files and makes calls for instance? Or would there be a base fee for storage (after all, the files stay on their servers all the time)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I would assume this is for services using computing power rather than storage. The Nextcloud storage probably costs what you say it costs.

For me it's really just a matter of which Nextcloud provider I subscribe to, as open source and guaranteed good Linux support is pretty high on my list of demands.

For reference, Dropbox prices are:
€120/yr: 2TB
€200/yr: 3TB
€60/yr: One additional terrabyte of storage

I guess the pricing is relative depending on needs - if you need to host a bunch of stuff, Jottacloud suddenly seems very reasonable. If a few gigabytes for your holiday pictures is enough, less so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Makes sense, thanks.

Yes, I was confused by the hourly price, not sure why they would add it, seems confusing.

Actually I just realized they probably just added add as 5€ divided by the number of hours per month as an indication

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they offer a bunch of more complex services to business consumers, which makes their website a bit confusing to tiny people like us. I think it's probably wise to focus only on the information on this page.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's where I got the hourly price from:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Excellent point haha. I think it's just a (confusing) marketing trick - as they say, there's a monthly cancellation period. So you pay per month, all they are trying to say here is that it's relatively cheap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

Yep, as you said

Since the new hetzner pricing the site is more confusing but the big price is the one that matters most of the time lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

Yes its a full NC instance, we use the same hosting for our companies NC and Talk is working fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Does Kdrive have a family plan?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

kSuite Plus with the 1Tb offer and a free @ik.me mail. (in my language it says @me.me which I find funny)

Very happy with how kSuite integrates. Their import tool is also great. made me drop dropbox, onedrive, google drive

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I checked out nextcloud and koofr when switching from Google drive and settled on koofr. In terms of the criteria you outlined above:

Decent desktop client + network drive which appears like a USB key in your file system, super usable
Very good android app
No document editing but you can open everything from the network drive using the editing software on your device and it syncs to the cloud
Nice price (45 euro for 200GB, which is all I need)
Downside: no integrated document suite for editing in the browser but the workaround with the network drive is very straightforward (one click to enable in the desktop client)

I don't need a massive amount of cloud storage, in the terabytes, say, so I've found koofr ideal for my purposes. Another bonus for me is it's a Slovene company so must be GDPR compliant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for sharing!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

No worries, thanks for your original post 👌

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Have a look at Tresorit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe you want to take a look into PCloud - 100€ per year for 2TB of storage, no online office, but afaik local encryption possible before upload.

It also gives the possibility for “lifetime” plans - pay once, use forever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

I recently (~3 weeks ago) switched to pCloud (lifetime plan) coming from Dropbox and thus far I’m extremely happy with switching! European and one subscription less to worry about, win-win!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

IONOS has a really good deal on Nextcloud.