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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I think what "god" does mean for me, you and others are different. Also same goes for "believe" and "you". I believe, these kinds of topics are way out of our minds' league and even we could comprehend and discuss those things(god, reality, logic etc.) we still would be using wrong tools like language and our current logic system. So both the tools we use, and our intelligence is not enough to answer this question.

But still, if you want a yes or no answer; I would say no without hesitation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No. I usually call myself an agnostic atheist and follow it up with this thought: say humanity some day, somehow sends a man or a robot to explore a black hole and at the very bottom of that black hole there is an old door with a doorbell. We ring the doorbell and soon after an old man opens the door and says: "oh, there you are. I'm God, come on in". I think it would be kind of arrogant to just dismiss him immediately and say "no you're not! God doesn't exist!" That's why I'm not just a hardcore atheist.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Of a sort.

I strongly believe that the universe we are in is one created and run by an intelligent 3rd party.

But unlike 99.9% of the people who share that belief, I happen to also believe that this 3rd party was itself created from evolutionary processes in a world that was not created.

It's a belief that seems to go back at least to the 3rd century CE, but centers around the notion that a chaotic universe where life evolved without design (an idea at least as old as Leucretius in 50 BCE) would eventually create life sophisticated enough to be able to create worlds itself, and that we are in the re-creation of such a universe at an earlier point in time.

One of the wildest aspects of that belief in antiquity was its focus on the notions of Greek atomism and matter being made up of indivisible parts as an indicator of its claim of being in a copy of a higher fidelity original. Especially given that a central component of my own belief in this topic relates to the similarity between quantum behaviors (indivisible parts of matter) and hacks we have started using in building procedurally generated voxel based virtual worlds.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah. Even if it intellectually makes no sense, I still do. I never discuss it and would never attempt to convert someone or anything, I really have better things to do. But despite the fact it isn't logical I still always do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

"Omnism" is the closest definition to what I'm trying to define. Debates will never end, but I'm happy with my own path

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

God? No... Gods? Yea sure, i believe in nature, i believe in the balance of everything, and for a lack of giving my faith a focus, i have turned to the norse gods multiple times.

They arent omnipotent, they arent all knowing, but they are beings bumbling around the universe like us, doing dumb ass shit... like all of us... and you can ask for favors, but dont expect to get it granted, because if you arent willing to make a sacrafice, and do the groundwork, why on earth would they help you?

[–] FarceMultiplier 1 points 2 years ago

No, and I never really did, even when I went to church as a kid. Then, when I was told not to come back to Sunday School because I asked too many questions, it cemented my atheism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I used to as my parent taught me that but now as a grown up , I dont believe in god. I mean I am not sure if god exists so I dont believe in god. Just like ghosts, aliens etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yes. I think. It's becoming more difficult.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I try to separate β€œbelieving” things β€” ie, concluding that I will accept something as true (helpful) β€” from β€œbelieving in” things, which edges more into hoping and convincing myself (problematic).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yup I sure do

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