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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Explanation: While use of coffee beans originated in Ethiopia, it was the Arabs of the 15th century AD who discovered that it could be brewed into a drink. While I'm not a coffee drinker myself, both an appreciation for the historical importance of the drink and the fantastic smell makes me thankful for the discovery as well! Truly the world's first step into modernity πŸ™

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What was the use before the Arabs?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Chewing the beans, I believe.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

just like coca leaves in South America, coca tea came later, and eventually coca cola

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's your source. Ethiopians will tell you up and down that they discovered and brewed coffee first

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This article says that both Ethiopia and Yemen claim to have discovered coffee. The Ethiopian claim is that it was discovered and brewed in Ethiopia and the Yemeni claim is that Ethiopians discovered but Yemenis brewed it. I like the Ethiopian story better but it either have no conclusive evidence

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I tend to believe the Yemeni version because of the earlier evidence, but you're correct that neither origin is definite, and history probably will never be fully certain on the matter.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago

To be fair: caffeine is toxic to insects. It's not that we enjoy the intended effect like in hot chilies. It's that the effect differs between insects and mammals

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (24 children)

Man I hate coffee. Tastes like ash in water.

I have high sensitivity towards some tastes. Beer is also not palatable for me.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not sure why you're being down voted.

Personally I love the taste of coffee, but I can see how high "tastitivity" could make it unpleasant.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Not sure why you're being down voted.

People take it personally maybe πŸ˜†πŸ’”

But yeah, coffee definitely feels like a love it or hate it kind of beverage.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It sounds like you have had a bunch of dark roasts. Maybe try a light roast and see if it tastes the same?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It doesn't taste the same, nor smell the same, but it all tastes bad. For me, it's like asking me to try different brands of cigarettes. I'll still cough no matter the subtle or big differences.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same here. When people ask me why I don't drink coffee I have to explain to them that to me it tastes like a bars ashtray smells at the end of a busy night. The funny thing is everyone in my family loves coffee, I'm just the black sheep that drinks tea.

"Oh you just haven't had good coffee" nope sorry bud, I've had high end coffee, low end coffee, flavored coffee, everything. I even had a supervisor who basically lived on coffee and did everything he could to find a blend that was palatable to me, still nothing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly. Many who like coffee just can't imagine how someone can just not even learn to love it, no matter how hard they try.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Coffee is the same for me. Beer used to be the same, but I got used to it - still doesn't taste great, but cold it's acceptable. But not coffee, I never got used to it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's the thing, I have no interest in subjecting myself to things until they are acceptable lol. I like eating and drinking things that are inherently good to begin with. Things that are good for me, and to me. πŸ˜…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Very understandable! I've also stopped drinking beer, because it never started tasting good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

πŸ˜†πŸ‘Œ Very reasonable outcome IMO!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A lot of people think coffee has one taste. It does not. It isn't all that burnt to hell flavor like you get from Starbucks or most other places. A nice light roast will be more fruity. If you get the chance, I'd recommend trying a naturally processed coffee, which is where the seed is left in the fruit while it ferments and is then removed, so it gets a lot more of the fruit flavors.

I'd also say the same thing for beer, but even more so. Beer is like soup. There's so many different ways to make it with different ingredients. Budweiser, or similar, is what most people try, and it's shit. There's a massive world of beer though, with things like sours that can taste like wine, fruit juice, or candy, to stouts that can have coffee or chocolate notes, and so much more.

You have to have an open mind and explore. There may not be coffee you like (the number of flavors is broad, but still more limited), but I can promise you I could find beer you like. My mom used to say she hates beer, but I've found a good number that she enjoys because there isn't just one flavor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Thanks, people have been offering me fine beer and coffee my whole life since puberty hit. Everything tastes like shit to me, I'm sorry. Some people just don't like coffee or beer. πŸ‘ And I'm perfectly happy not to need to drink them both. There's plenty of other things to enjoy. Like tea. Fruit juices. A gin and tonic perhaps. A mild non-alcoholic ginger beer.

But coffee can go sit in a corner.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can't just say all that and not name any brands. Sure do I start?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

You start local. I can't help you with that unless you live near me.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't care for the taste, but the smell is truly fantastic.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Like ash? That's wild. My partner also doesn't like the taste, though she does like the smell. I wonder if there's some genetic stuff at play, since I don't know how else it could taste anything like ash.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

huh, i also think it tastes like ash...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

"Burnt water" is how I described the taste to my coffee-loving grandparents after numerous (and enthusiastic! I wanted to like it) attempts to find coffee I liked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I do think there might be. I think it's called hyper tasters or something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Funny, after water, beer and coffee are my two most consumed drinks. I like whisky too but haven’t been drinking as much lately. It kind of comes and goes.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's definitely a taste that not everyone likes. I personally love coffee with a bit of sugar (1/2 a teaspoon per espresso shot). I also love espressos but hate Americanos. Maybe it's the type of drinks you tried?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Drinks? I have just been given regular(?) northern European style coffee (maybe strong?) to taste, but every type of coffee just smells a different type of ash to me. I don't think it will matter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah, so it's just probably not for you. Some people love coffee, some don't. It's the way of life.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Arabic dark roast beans are like used barbecue charcoal, but South American beans in a light roast are more like hazelnut black tea. There's a massive difference.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah it was Ethiopians who realized it. Arabs agreed. Then Europeans lost their damn minds at the concept of a non alcoholic social beverage, much less one with an energizing effect

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Going from drunk to energized to inventing calculus, optics, a working theory of gravity and orbital mechanics in one lifetime

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

you're welcome. 😊

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