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I've been trying to get luarocks to work on windows, and all it gives is cryptic gcc errors.

How does pip manage to work on most platforms without issues?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Pick a language like Perl, where some packages are written in C and some are written in pure Perl, and you'll get to experience the same cryptic GCC errors, sometimes. There's no secret to pip; many Python developers upload wheels with pre-compiled binaries, including Windows-compatible binaries, and so you don't have to run GCC because they already did it for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Thanks, this is the explanation I was looking for.

Also, lua is the same, packages are either written in c or pure lua.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

It's a 17 year old tool in the world's most popular scripting language. It's effectively had billions of tests run against it.

[–] alsimoneau 3 points 20 hours ago

Pip is amazing. It does somethings in seconds that take anaconda over an hour to do.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm surprised to hear you say this because in all honesty, pip really sucks as far as package managers go. uv is a worthy replacement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think this is talking about basic functionality, eg. can you do basic stuff with a clean install without everything immediately breaking

There's a lot of programming tools that are primarily developed for and on linux, and "windows support" is an afterthought which will result in linux being a very frictionless experience but windows being a minefield of problems and requiring careful manual setup

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Compared to luarocks, pip is amazing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe so, but pip is years behind package managers like cargo. It really is not particularly good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Sure, and Luarocks is behind pip, and it really is particularly bad.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're getting gcc errors it sounds like the package you're trying to install contains some c/c++ stuff that needs compiling.

A lot of python packages that rely on things written in c/c++ ship those precompiled, which might account for why it feels easier for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sorry if it was unclear, I constantly get cryptic gcc errors using luarocks a package manager for lua. Its years behind pip.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, you were clear. That's what I understood you to mean.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Ah, I'm the one who misread, sorry.

Yeah, compiling things from scratch is the norm for lua packages, making them really only work on linux.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

pip cannot install some system dependencies your library might need. Windows is extra difficult sometimes, as the library might require some paths during installation, Linux is way easier for this kind of stuff. Either you use WSL, or you follow these instructions for Windows I found by googling https://github.com/luarocks/luarocks/blob/main/docs/installation_instructions_for_windows.md

I use Mint btw

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The instructions don't work half the time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd love to hear a technical answer, but one thing that's probably part of it is the fact that pip is written in Python and Python runs everywhere without much problem (though uv also seems to work pretty flawlessly too lol)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lua runs everywhere (almost), but I cannot install a uuid library on windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IIRC I've had pip fail like that too. Unable to build a lib it included.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Pip does fail sometimes, but its not half as bad as luarocks.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@irelephant do anyone care a thing about windoze? :O

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lack of windows support for most luarocks modules has stopped me from writing a lot of stuff in lua.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Who are you writing package for?

backend stuff need not run on Windows at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I was thinking of making a simple SSG (Static Site Generator), and I wanted to make it in lua.
some other cli tools, like scraping scripts as well.