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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As if they'd impose maximum penalties, no matter how deserved. But hey, fingers crossed!

And imho the whole issue can be avoided by using mobile websites and/or alternative app front-ends for meta services, if you can't steer clear of them altogether.

And blocking apps from using background data should seal the deal.

[–] masterofn001 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I have webrtc completely disabled in browsers.

I tell everyone, and I abide by : never use an app if you can use the website. If they only have an app be prepared to be fucked.

I also use a VPN / firewall / DNS filter (by domain and by IP). Rethink or invizible provide all 3 in 1 on android. On linux rotating VPNs, rotating local DNS resolvers [dnscrypt-proxy with local doh with blacklists], and strict firewall rules.

*Facebook* , *meta*, *Instagram* etc are blocked in and out. As are Google "safety" domains, and a lot of their APIs.

Privacy may be inconvenient, but selling (giving away for likes) your soul to the devil could cost you a lot more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Same here, in my productive browser (Fennc on mobile, stock Firefox on desktop) WebRTC is blocked. I keep a chrome variant around in case anything truly doesn't work (Cromite on mobile, Edge on Windows, since I have to use some MS applications for work that I don't care to install on my system).

I rotate VPN servers, not services though.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, I'm a cranky old nerd. I'll say some silly shit here ...
Nobody should have the Facebook or Instagram apps installed on their phone.
For one thing, those are websites. You don't need the app.
For another, they kill your battery because they are so damn busy spying on you.
Really, there have absolutely always been known privacy issues with those. This whole thing was known well before they proved the exact method

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Until this phone, Facebook always came installed and couldn't be uninstall without hacking the phone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In the phones I've had, you could deactivate it even if it can't be uninstalled.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not an advanced phone user, the deactivating of apps confuses me... I think I have also seen things get stealth reactivated on updates (my samsung). Hard to trust if this helps anything...

My relatives think their amazon echoes are not spying on them because they opted out of being spied on as a tangential example

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is the correct answer. When I get a new phone I rip out the bloatware and disable the rest. It usually takes a couple days to achieve a minimal but stable config. Yes updates reenable things. Maintenance is required if you want privacy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It could cost Meta 32 billion.

US law: "Best I can do is 15 thousand."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

EU law: "How about percentage of global revenue per infraction?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They don't ask them what they want to pay or what they claim the revenue was, they look at the numbers:

Art. 83(5) GDPR, the fine framework can be up to 20 million euros, or in the case of an undertaking, up to 4 % of their total global turnover of the preceding fiscal year, whichever is higher.

https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/fines-penalties/

Although realistically speaking they're probably just getting fined for one "infringement", despite committing quite a lot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

In real life people think it is weird that I don't use apps; even if this is obvious to us, we are also a bunch of anarchists on a defederated internet forum. Explanations and examples like this will help us protect the normal people who don't think like us (yet).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm curious if Meta could do this with their apps, can other apps do something similar?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I doubt a lot of Lemmy users have got those apps on their phones. Although I am curious about how it would affect people who, say, used Island or similar (leverage the Work profile) to install them as I have seen that suggested in privacy communities before. Would Meta only be able to access other apps installed to that profile - if you had a browser installed in it too for example?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

And how much did they profit off of it..?