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Eliezer uses the tragic death of someone to smugly (and falsely) further his rhetoric (awful.systems)

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jesus this is gross man

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Making LLMs safe for mentally ill people is very difficult and this is a genuine tragedy but oh my god Yud is so gross here

Using the tragic passing of someone to smugly state that "the alignment by default COPE has been FALSIFIED" is really gross especially because Yud knows damn well this doesn't "falsify" the "cope" unless he's choosing to ignore any actual deeper claims of alignment by default. He's acting like someone who's engagement farming smugly

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What even is the "alignment by default cope"?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (22 children)

idk how Yudkowsky understands it but to my knowledge its the claim that if a model achieves self-coherency and consistency its also liable to achieve some sort of robust moral framework (you see this in something like Claude 4, with it occassionally choosing to do things unprompted or 'against the rules' in pursuit of upholding its morals.... if it has morals its hard to tell how much of it is illusory and token prediction!)

this doesn't really at all falsify alignment by default because 4o (presumably 4o atleast) does not have that prerequisite of self coherency and its not SOTA