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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Also 0patch, which will continue to provide security patches for Windows 10 indefinitely.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

If you find yourself not wanting to switch, there are third party options for patching. I'm going to try zero patch, but I have no experience with them to date.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (17 children)

I don't understand how can critical buisness machines which work perfectly fine be switched to windows 11?

We have a machine at work which is beefy and works as a server and backups for many many years on windows 10. Why the hell should I upgrade my buisness critical system ?? Why would I take my risk breaking stuff. I am sure there are millions of critical systems running gon windows 10 which should not be distribed at any means, what would Microsoft do about them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

We have a machine at work which is beefy and works as a server and backups for many many years on windows 10. Why the hell should I upgrade my buisness critical system ??

Because you should be using a server grade os instead of janking things together with desktop OS installs that just make everything so much harder (and aren't supported for as long).

Sorry, I have to clean up installs like this at least once a year when we take on clients from internal IT that just made things work instead of making something that works right, so I've got opinions.

[–] stealth_cookies 11 points 2 days ago

If you are running business critical applications on Windows 10 that is a problem. Windows 10 is only meant for end user machines. Other services should be running on OS's that are meant for the application such as Windows Server or server versions of Linux distros running LTS kernels.

Not to mention, near every piece of software I've been involved with at work has required specific versions of Windows Server and whatever database it uses, if you want to upgrade the software you use, then upgrading the OS is part of the task.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

What Microsoft probably expects you to do is get your management to buy new computers that support Windows 11 and/or whatever the hell their current server OS is, and in the process give them and their hardware vendor partners a lot of money.

What you can do instead is switch to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC which is what I did at my workplace recently. It's supported until 2032 with security updates. Not feature updates, but I suspect that business users probably don't care about those much. In fact, most people would probably treat that as a benefit. It also comes with basically no bloatware (except goddamned Edge), which is surprising. No Copilot, no Cortana, no Recall. None of that shit.

We have a fleet of machines that "can't" be upgraded to Win11 because of hardware shortcomings, at least without overriding the requirements with Rufus or similar. Unfortunately we also rely on a small but important spread of proprietary Windows-only applications which have no open source or Linux replacements, and at least two of them absolutely will not run in Wine. Believe me, I tried.

The only wrinkle with this is that you cannot upgrade or license swap in place. You have to do a full reinstall, which for us is not a problem because we have a modest number of computers and I have physical access to all of them. None are bricked up behind a wall or anything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

For that use Windows 10 IOT LTSC

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What is the highest spec pc I am likely to find for sale when people realise it cant go to windows 11?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I had a look and it looks like you will not get anything special. The cutoff is around 2015. So for example Lenovo T440s will support Win11 but T440p will not. Looking at backmarket T440s is cheaper than T440p. So looks like you will only be able to get something ancient and the price will be pretty standard.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The big thing to consider is what software do you really NEED, what can change, and what can you do without. Then the change is easier.

Then there's the learning curve of new software. Wheee

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only time I use Windows is for Fusion 360

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wish I could make parts in FreeCAD anywhere close to as good as I can in Fusion 360... I REALLY miss it since the move to Linux. I'm not anywhere near as excited about my 3D printer anymore since designing parts is a slog and the end result I am generally un-proud of. :( I feel like my only option (which sucks) is buy a second GPU for pass through and install windows 10 in a VM that only touches the internet once every 2 weeks to keep Fusion happy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s possible to pass thru a single GPU. I followed this guide on my Fedora desktop

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eTWf5D092VY

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