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They are trying to sell audio calls, video calls and desktop clients as premium feautures. Important consideration for my anti-capitalist ass. Also those features shouldn't be catered to businesses only.
They also list "unlimited contacts" as a free feature. I think this should not even be considered negotiable.
The only thing that really bugs me it's the desktop clients as a premium feature. Even if I would prefer to get everything freely, I understand their choice to make call premium.
Just browsing around the Swift files in the iOS app, I found these:
final class PersistedDiscussionOneToOneLockedToPersistedDiscussionOneToOneLockedMigrationPolicyV24ToV25: NSEntityMigrationPolicy {
private func processContactGroupHasUpdatedPendingMembersAndGroupMembersNotification(obvContactGroup: ObvContactGroup) {
try UtilsForAppMigrationV24ToV25.createDefaultPersistedDiscussionSharedConfiguration(forDiscussion: dInstance, destinationContext: manager.destinationContext)
And they say Java has verbose names.
Sometimes, for my own internal solo projects, I give my variations and functions wacky names because I was bored, I wonder if that's the same for whoever named those.
NonFree server.
To me, self-hosted and federated (so you can self-host and others can self-host and it seamlessly works across instances) is the way of the future. There might be criticisms of xmpp or matrix, but to me the moment you're no longer looking at a single point of failure like with big tech services (or aspiring big tech services like this) you're much more secure because your data isn't in one centralized spot with everyone else's data to get picked up in one big hack.
What about their server?
Apperantly, they run E2EE which means no servers are being used for storage of what people send to each other. They tell their visitors this on olvid.io (below "Olvid cares for you").
Hope someone forks it and makes all premium features free, lol.
That could be cool, I hope it's feasible!
such a dick move.
There is little incentive to publish open source code in a commercial setting comments like that validates it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Well, I'm poor and I'm already expecting that stuff for free, my poor friends are also not going to pay for that and therefore they will not switch to a private messenger therefore, so give me free real state or gtfo. I know people want to live from that and it must be great, but I live under capitalism and I don't have many choices.
repost of that xkcd article which goes: "there are 14 standards"; "that's too many! we need one that meets all use cases!"; "there are 15 standards"
Here you go!
Awesome! Hope its on f droid soon
I don't think matrix protocol will be surpassed by this.
But competition is good for business, and innovation. Maybe Matrix is 'forced' to implement some features because of this.
what features does olvid have that matrix doesnt have yet?
Most notably voice calls probably.
Matrix/element should have that too, afaik
"Olvid's not Covid" 🤪
...gnu
Gnu's not Unix