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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (18 children)

I don't give two cents for the american auto brands but spare me the drama: try and make a proper car.

Looking at Ford: try importing a few models from the european line and offer it in the states. Small, economic, somewhat reliable, fuel efficient cars.

Stellantis has a slew of models that could be brought into the american market. They make good cars.

And I'm willing to bet GM as a few models they build and market overseas that would be guaranteed sucesses.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So when can we stop with this "free markets" nonsense in the third world aswell??

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There hasn't ever been a free market. Its a captive market. When you can only succeed by denying a competitor into a market, you prove that. They refuse to rise to the challenge because they don't have to.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 days ago (40 children)

I am pretty sure there is some financial fuckery going on with BYD. My parents own two, and they are very nice, but way under priced compared to every other EV manufacturer.

Can't prove anything of course, but there is something odd going on when everyone else is 20-30k more expensive.

Hard to feel sorry for GM though, they suckled at our governments (Australia) teet for decades before giving up and leaving entirely. At least if BYD is being propped up we are at least getting good cheap cars from it.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Former GM Executive: BYD cars are better and cheaper than American. If we let BYD into the U.S. Market, we wouldn't be able to be greedy and enshitify our products any more, which would end up destroying american car manufacturers. FTFY.

P.S. Actually the average american would be benefited from that

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (19 children)

I don't disagree with the criticisms of American cars -- overpriced, uninspired, unreliable, over-engineered, etc. -- but to everyone saying "we should just compete", do you realize the realities that Chinese workers experience? Have you heard of 996? It's shorthand for a common work schedule in China: 9am to 9pm, 6 days a week. Benefits that are common in the U.S., even in non-union shops, like retirement plans, PTO, worker's comp, and overtime pay are rare. So, yeah, things can be made much cheaper if you are willing to feed your workforce into the grinder.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

And that’s exactly what is coming to the US, since they think workers rights and unions are the problem.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

First the enshittified the food

Then the health care

Then every consumer product

Finally they enshittified the nation itself

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

The number 1 electric car company, they passed Tesla recently

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Domestic US cars can't compete with foreign cars. We've known that forever. Or at least since the 90s.

Look no further than Kei trucks being illegal.

Our overengineered, over priced, unnecessarily complicated crap just can't compete with simple transport vehicles because they aren't made as a tool to serve a purpose. Everyone wants to make a Corolla into a Cadillac and sell it for Cadillac prices.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (21 children)

Maybe the USA should heavily invest in the industry of the USA, just like China does, in order to keep up? No, then USian companies would have oversight & have to meet expectations, and we all know that they wouldn’t want that.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

Meanwhile, instead of trying to compete they cripple all EV advancement to make a quick buck on fossil fuel.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

No shit, people want cheap, reliable transport and workers would want to build them, build and work on replacement parts, build batteries, etc. The only people supported by blocking BYD in the US are executives, shareholders, and the politicians they bought.

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