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Everyone (and their mother) have been trying to convince me that I should use one of my less loaded servers to be a Fediverse node. However, all Fediverse software packages I checked only support being installed on complicated systemd + Docker machines. My servers don't have either of those, because neither systemd nor Docker even exist on OpenBSD and illumos.

I know that it would be possible to manually install (e.g.) Lemmy, assuming that I won't ever need official support, but I wonder why the world outside a limited subset of the Linux ecosystem is - at most - an afterthought for Fediverse developers.

How can I help to change that?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For me it was real easy setting up a node, because of docker. Docker+docker-compose were the only requirements to get it running. Docker (or the alternatives are available for a lot of systems, so supporting that makes sure it can run on a lot of machines.

For the remainder of systems, if the administrator decides to go for a less common install, I get that the developers aren't able to support that. There's just too much diversity in that kind of systems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Docker is used by a ton of projects and makes installation very easy in most cases

I’d highly recommend moving to a different distro that has docker

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

There are no OpenBSD “distros” with Docker.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

The vast majority of servers run Linux and the simplest way to deploy services is with containers. Unix and Windows are much less supported and even running outside containers is fading away.

If you are interested, it may be simpler to spin up a small Linux VM.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I didn’t use docker. I went from scratch. You need to be able to compile rust and run nginx or similar

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@tux0r have you seen Honk? It seems to be very easy. I've heard it works well if it's what you want. https://humungus.tedunangst.com/r/honk

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I did! And indeed, it looks like a very straightforward solution. :-) Currently experimenting with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is no “official support” for this. Is FOSS. You are on your own to run it.

It’s a project run by two people. And to be fair to them they chose one of the most OS agnostic methods to help build it. You don’t need to use a specific distro, just tools.

You can port what’s needed over to BSD and do a PR to merge it, even if it’s just a BSD_Jails.md file. But it’s gonna take some know how.

Building a Lemmy instance on pretty much any Linux box is fairly easy and well documented though.

On a personal note, imho it does no good to be an OS evangelist. It’s as true for MacOs or Windows as it does for BSD. Use a tool for its strengths. I have BSD running my firewalls and even some storage, Linux running stuff, windows for things it excels at, and macos for stuff it works for.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree with you and I really don't want to sound like "finally use a decent system, unworthy Linux user". However, this sword has two edges: I don't necessarily want to be fobbed off with "Install Linux, you backward fool" either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That’s fair. Id be interested to see a bsd port personally. You probably can do it without docker. But whether all the parts are ported is another question (ie pictrs). You may be able to compile them from source though. I’ve never used BSD for web apps, mostly just firewalls, storage and routing.

I did run FreeBSD as a desktop for a while some years back.

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