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I downgraded to an iPhone 11 Pro Max – and I'm not missing much::When I recently wrote about the iPhone 15 Pro rumors I care about, I mentioned that upgrading to an iPhone...

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 years ago (1 children)

tl; dr: out-of-touch tech journalist realizes living like a normal person who doesn’t buy a new expensive phone every year is possible.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I had to check, and my current phone (Gslaxy S10) was released 6 months before the iPhone 11 Pro Max. I have no plans on upgrading any time soon.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah I'm on an S8 and it's been feeling like time to upgrade for a whiile now unfortunately. But it's holding up much better than you'd expect.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yep. Made a switch to iPhone when the 14 came out. Verizon rep thought my wife and I were retarded for not wanting to pay an extra $500 and ditch the 13. Only time I get a new phone is when it’s destroyed. No need to have the latest and greatest when it’s not doing anything functionally different.

[–] GhostMatter 62 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yea, I’m literally on an iPhone 11 and bought it with the intention of using for this long as a minimum (I picked it because it had a good battery and seemed to be a good iPhone generation). Previously I was on a 5. Some people just need to be forced to see that not consuming like an addict is actually possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I’ve carried my 12 Pro for 3 years, which is the longest I think I’ve kept a phone (worked in wireless for a good while and had to keep up with latest devices so I could sell them, and it became a bit of a habit to upgrade regularly). My 15 Pro Max comes in tomorrow and I plan to use it for 3-5 years. I’m upgrading specifically for USB-C so that now all my devices that get used regularly have the same port. I’ll give my lightning cables away so they don’t just become e waste immediately and that’ll be that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Ditto: reading this on an iPhoneX

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I'd still be rocking my pixel 2 if it wasn't for the 3G shutdown.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The hardware isn't the issue...

The problem comes when Apple decides not to upgrade the OS any more. Then, some time after that, the apps you like to use won't work.

Planned obsolescence : environmentally iniquitous.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

iOS 17 installs on a 5 years old iPhone though. I don’t think that's an unreasonable window of deceives supported.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why shouldn’t it last be updated if it’s still working perfectly and capable? I have a 10 year old laptop and a 24 year old car. But my bank is not restricting me from visiting their branch or website because my car or laptop is too old.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Dev and QA costs.

Your car has no impact on them, and neither does your laptop’s hardware since they don’t write native software. But supporting old browsers would be more work for their devs, so they likely have limits there, like not supporting IE6.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Everyone latches onto the wild conspiracy theories, but this is the real reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your dont demand continuous updates for your car. Heck, even from the moment you bought the car, unless there is a recall, there is no update expected for your brand new car.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

The SE form 2016 still gets safety updates.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lmao let's not pretend like Android is winning in the support department.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I wasn't suggesting it! There are other options.

The IPhone 3g turned me from a long-time Apple Fanboy to a Linux enthusiast over a decade ago. With no regrets.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

My partner and I are still on the 12 Pro Max and have no plans on upgrading. Of course like clockwork, Verizon has texted us both the same upgrade message every few days. I finally had to tell them to stop.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m very happy with my 12 pro max.

I was using a 6S Plus until about a year ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I was on a Nexus 6P before I finally got sick of disposable Android phones. The last straw that sent me back to iOS and the iPhone was when I was in another country and my phone kept shutting down at 50% battery. No matter what I did, it kept shutting down. This was not good when I was trying to traverse a city I wasn’t familiar with and needed to rely on Google Maps. I had to keep the phone connected to a portable charger for the rest of the trip.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Android. I still have a Nexus 5 that has had a ton of different ROMs on it, but the amount of just plain terrible devices I had was staggering. The kind of tech that gets shoved out the door and thrown in the trash a year later.

[–] bgb_ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I had the same problem with my 6p back in the day, but a battery swap fixed that problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was just done at that point. I had a slew of problems with the phone and having it be unreliable in a time where I needed it was enough to push me into the walled garden. Everything else? I love to tinker. Linux, the Steam Deck, etc. For a phone, I’m past the age of tinkering. I needed something more consistent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah I tinkered with everything when I was younger. Nowadays I hand it to my daughter and she figures it out.I stopped jailbreaking my iPhones around iOS 7.

I love playing around on my Steam Deck though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

We got like $400 from a class action about that phone. Had two of them, but the second one didn't double it for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We were in a store today and walked by the iPhone 15 display and stopped. Yeah, not missing much is definitely true. It doesn’t really feel faster and the camera was not impressive. It was ok for a 5x. I’m staying with my 12 Pro Max as well. It’s still quite good and it’s paid off.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only plus I see is USB-C and that is definitely not enough to justify starting the new phone pay cycle all over again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

USB-C would be … nice I suppose. However, I’m already totally wireless with the 12PM using MagSafe and wireless CarPlay so I don’t really care about the port on the bottom of my device.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are we not going to talk about battery? I've never had any luck w iPhone battery being able to perform that's this old. Replacements are a thing, but Suprised this wasn't mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Battery life tends to be the one things I really look forward to with a new phone these days. Instead of paying to replace my battery, I just sell my phone and get a new one.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I’m still using my 2020 SE 3.5 years old on original battery. No issues.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I bought the original OnePlus Nord mid 2020 for €336 and I have no plans of replacing it. A €600-700 foldable might convince me, but other than that this phone is way better than what I need.

The only thing I'd do differently is buying a phone from a company that isn't Chinese.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am using with no issues at all my Poco F2 Pro and that one came out in 2019, I can get 10 hrs of SOT if use it minimal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you know what SOT means?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It's screen-on time, and ten hours is quite normal for the Poco F2.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just upgraded from 11 pro to 15 Pro max, I didn’t have to as it was still running fine on iOS 16 and the cameras were great but it’s nice to have the fastest cpu, 24MP pictures, 5x optical zoom, 120Hz and always on display.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Based on video from JerryRigEverything, be careful about the rear glass.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

sure looked pretty all shattered tho

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