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[–] gigachad@piefed.social 162 points 5 days ago (14 children)

In 1962

Does not make it less outrageous, but I thought it's good to know it's not a recent proposal

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 61 points 5 days ago (2 children)

In the modern era, the US president doesn't need to actually have a justification for starting a war, just the possibility of profit.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 5 days ago (4 children)

It's not a war, it's an engagement of political discourse through military action to accommodate business interests.

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[–] katharta@piefed.social 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The recent ones haven't been declassified yet.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The kind of sick minds to propose this and then seriously consider it is beyond me. Truly depraved and without morals.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All to overthrow a foreign government because they might harm America's economic interests.

If a communist government has that massive of an effect on the US economy, maybe the US economy should change how it economies.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

It is all just the rhetoric for power and control. Countries claim communism or democracy but the reality is they are often not what they claim at all.

The older I get the easier it is to see it is all just excuses and lies. The whole world is fascist and policies are all that really matter. The rest is just propaganda.

[–] Adderbox76 85 points 5 days ago (12 children)

The United States has always been the villain of the story. But they used to at least try to hide it behind a sheen of soft power. The only difference between now and then is that Trump unabashedly takes the mask off and gives no fuck what the rest of the world thinks.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

US is the Andrew Tate of global politics right now. They were a lot more subtle about it before though. But the core values that have always held throughout history are absolute self-interest, entitlement, and hubris.

Apply Gestalt Theory to the US and watch how unrestrained capitalism raised this baby from an idealist freedom seeker and into a narcissistic bully with self-aggrandising sophist reasoning and a pure Machiavellian outlook on life.

Trump only did away with the pretences, by firing the people who took care of the subtle masquerade. He didn’t like the pushback from them on global policy, and because the shoes already fit, decided to just do it live on stage without the makeup.

Unfortunately for US citizens, that means that they get to experience the splashback as he pisses on their international credibility.

A historically meticulously curated and maintained image that’s now irrevocably ruined forevermore. No sane person can trust a promise or a treaty made through US foreign policy ever again.

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[–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

These proposals were rejected by John f Kennedy, a Democrat

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (30 children)

Yeah - JFK was more than happy to commit acts of terrorism against Cuban people, but he drew the line at Americans. Great example of the difference between Democrats and Republicans.

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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The CIA is basically a rogue agency.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 6 points 4 days ago

The Joint Chiefs of Staff were also on board with the plan. The problem is unfortunately deeper than just the CIA.

[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (9 children)

That's what they were up to as early as the 1960s. By the late 90s they learned not to leave a paper trail.

[–] Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Israel did the same thing to us in the 1960s to goad us into a war with Egypt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Plans were rejected by JFK in 1962. Hmmm I wonder what happened to him the next year or so..

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 4 days ago

Wouldn't be the first time.

[–] SebasFC@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (16 children)

Majority of wars started by the US started Like this. Is anyone studying history? Are you seriously surprised by this? Why is this even top secret, anyone reading knows

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[–] DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

But they tried everyone involved with treason, right? Right?

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[–] compast@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I am hoping america falls and we get to know what shit CIA have done for a century now

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

What we do know is chilling already. We would probably discover countless targeted assassinations of US and other citizens around the world. Ongoing torture and support of pedophile rings is just the start honestly.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 39 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Honestly I'm kinda shocked that they didn't do a false flag to justify the Iran invasion. Back during Trump I, there were random drone attacks against freighters in the Strait of Hormuz that I would be shocked if they were actually from Iran. Did the guy in charge of that program get fired or get sent to die in Gaza?

[–] The_Hideous_Orgalorg@sh.itjust.works 84 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why bother with a false flag when they aren't being held accountable for any of the blatantly illegal things they are doing?

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 22 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Well, if the US imposed a draft for an invasion of Iran right now, it would likely lead to massive civil unrest - the war is very unpopular, especially among young people. At the moment, it's a very distant thing for Americans, being told that you're going to go off and die in Iran for the benefit of Israel would probably be the breaking point for people.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 days ago

civil unrest is perfect. they can just arrest the protesting civillians and put them to work in the for profit prisons, leaving only compliant civilians. win-win.

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[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Playing catch-up, we'll get one

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[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And then JFK blocked it and nothing happened to him and these plans were surely never implemented and that's the end of the story

america will get over the fact that cuba discovered a better economic system than capitalism.

[–] pno2nr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

So after reading that does it seem so far fetched that the CIA could have planned/funded/executed 9/11?

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Back then it was the President keeping the military in check. Now we have to hope the opposite happens

[–] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just wait until you see the one being planned to justify postponing the elections.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm assuming Trump will make up an excuse to attack Cuba now. Hell he doesn't even need an excuse to wage war at this point.

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