What about osmand for android? I love this app
this post was submitted on 01 May 2021
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Yeah, OSMand works great and the version on F-droid is completely free. For (proper) non-Android phones there is Pure Maps, which is also great.
Yes also good but not sure if it has alerting, dashcam AI features, 3D terrain, etc and runs also on iOS. I did use it on Android but quite a while back.
I was aware of its existence, but it's a proprietary App with no business model, so I'm pretty sure that even though it is great today, I'm pretty sure it won't stay that way for long.
The app has been around a number of years already and I'm suspecting that, like open source companies do, they have other paid services that keep them running as this is not all that they do. Seems they enterprise services based around 3D terrain mapping etc.
Yeah, they seem to sell services for car GPS systems and such, so I guess having an app that goes with it is a great selling point.
Interesting, one thing I wonder is how they make money / how this is funded. This just seems too good to be true, no data collection/tracking, free apps, no ads. Sadly it looks like the apps are not open source though.
Yes on all counts - it is an interesting one yes as generally you either have a paid service, dish out adverts, or sell user data. Their ownership resides in Romania and The Netherlands which are both inside the EU and fall under GDPR. So the penalties for fraudulently selling user data would be pretty extreme there.
Seems to be closed source? So all you can do is take them for their word, and if they like they can change the privacy policy any time.
Sounds like one of those typical VC funded scams: offer a externally subsidized (VC funds) service for a time to collect many users and lock them in the platform. After a while sell the company off and the new owner changes it to a surveillance capitalism business model.
True not open source, but they've been on the go a good number of years. They're very public about their privacy stance so it would pretty well much wreck their reputation if that was an issue. Not seen any issues mentioned though about that, so I would not want to just speculate without some foundation.
Well, the issue is when I want my rights.
Your GDPR rights should be well guarded I gather. Citizens outside of the EU though basically don't have many rights from what I gather if I watch what Facebook gets up to. Which is why many are now choosing to subscribe to services hosted in Switzerland or the EU countries.
My four rights are not fit with them:
- Right to study the program
- Right to modify the program
- Right to distribute the program
- Right to distribute modified versions of the program
Those are open source rights and Magic Earth made no claim on being open source, which is why I never posted it in the open source community. It's a free tool to use that is at least privacy respecting.
And I was replying in first place to your claim that is not open source jajajajajaja.
You tell that and I was playing the role of the user demanding its rights.
It is the choice of any publisher (their freedom?) to choose a propriatary or open source license to distribute under, and it's up to us to choose what we want to use. We cannot override someone else's freedoms.
Is the choise, as far as don't restrict to third parties, so in this case if that person wants that, must do "private software" which is software not shared and maintained for itself.
For us, Magic Earth would not exist.
It looks like a nice app, but if it's so great, why is it non-free?
This isn't a rhetorical question, I'm genuinely curious (about this and other "good guy proprietary apps"). Usually when software denies its users the four freedoms it's because its business model doesn't allow it, but I don't understand what this app's business model is. It's gratis and has no ads and does not sell users' data. Is it proprietary "just because"?
As the FSF said in 2019, it's not just about privacy.
Not sure why you are asking as there is lots of software given out for free which are not open source - called freeware. The one does not automatically follow the other in terms of being free of cost and then also all being open source. Many propriatary vendors choose to reatin their full rights to the software. Sometimes it serves as a demonstration of their ability with regards to other products which they sell.
Few thoughts.
Security through obscurity, perhaps?
Publishing the source takes energy too and they just don't bother?
Or they want to show how unique the app is and if it's OSS, anyone can rebrand it and destroy the uniqueness.