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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We're going to war lads and I'm here for it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But have they tried worrying about other stuff

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Meaningful change should have happened last season after Skipp was left bleeding on the pitch due to a high boot by Jota (who later went on to score the winner in that match). Klopp's reaction? Telling Ryan Mason to worry about something else rather than a missed call that helped undermine the sporting integrity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If Liverpool loses the league by less than 3 points then there'll be lawsuits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They didn’t draw the lines when Arsenal drew Brentford last season either. It’s time for VAR real-time transparency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes lads! Go for them! The whole league needs this. Wish Merc were like this after the ‘human error’ farce in Abu Dhabi 2021.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Meaningful change should have happened last season after Skipp was left bleeding on the pitch due to a high boot by Jota (who later went on to score the winner in that match). Klopp's reaction? Telling Ryan Mason to worry about something else rather than a missed call that helped undermine the sporting integrity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Howard Webb is going to have to be in the VAR rooms every game lmao.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Holy shit what a cringe statement, was this written by a fan that thinks they're a lawyer or something?

Hey Liverpool fans, don't mistake the genuine sympathy that was turned into political influence which improved the game for a permanent political influence on football.

Nobody else gets "resolution" so fuck off, next time just score more goals?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Howard Webb is going to have to be in the VAR rooms every game lmao.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not that Liverpool should just sit on their hands and say 'Well they said oops, our bad, so big deal', but I don't know what avenues they think there are to pursue. They're not going to get a replay or points awarded to them, unless their goal is to force changes to transparency from officials regarding VAR decisions, I don't know what else they think they're going to get.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They want the audio and transparency, fair enough

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They didn’t draw the lines when Arsenal drew Brentford last season either. It’s time for VAR real-time transparency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Amount of tribalism in here is insane…every team in the PL should be joining this effort because clearly something is rotten in the PGMOL and it isn’t getting better. In fact I would argue every season since the implementation of VAR the standard has decreased despite the addition of technology that in theory should improve the standard of reffing. I say this as a ‘Pool fan but it seems every matchweek there is some VAR drama that results in some bs “apology” yet no action is taken. Take the piss out of Liverpool sure but at least our club is finally saying enough is enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But have they tried worrying about other stuff

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hope they bring in the lawyers tbh. Only way to get something done

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The whole point of football is to score a goal.

If a perfectly good goal isnt allowed then something is very wrong and not fit for purpose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No problem with the statements. More clubs should do this. Also glad to see they focused on the blatant error and not the controversial red cards that Jota and Jones received

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

the point of VAR is to fix mistakes...........

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So the PL referee union has chosen Spurs as their team for the season.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I remember the good old days before VAR where there were no significant human errors!

Jesze it's like everyone has never seen an incorrect call before, look its a doozy, but also... come on... there are dubious calls in every game forever, discretion, time, lack of vision... are you protesting the fact that there will always be a potential for human error, so protesting the fact that we are human and can make errors? or are all the people complaining on here perfect little robots that have never made a wee boo-boo.

Grow up, the lot of ya.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Liverpool fans really are the Trump supporters of the football world. Everyone is out to get them, everything is a grand conspiracy...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

###Liverpool Football Club acknowledges PGMOL’s admission of their failures last night. It is clear that the correct application of the laws of the game did not occur, resulting in sporting integrity being undermined.

We fully accept the pressures that match officials work under but these pressures are supposed to be alleviated, not exacerbated, by the existence and implementation of VAR.

It is therefore unsatisfactory that sufficient time was not afforded to allow the correct decision to be made and that there was no subsequent intervention.

That such failings have already been categorised as “significant human error” is also unacceptable. Any and all outcomes should be established only by the review and with full transparency.

This is vital for the reliability of future decision-making as it applies to all clubs with learnings being used to make improvements to processes in order to ensure this kind of situation cannot occur again.

In the meantime, we will explore the range of options available, given the clear need for escalation and resolution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You would think losing to a small trophy less club like Tottenham would literally mean nothing….Unless…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best change they could make. Within an hour or two after the game. All audio/transcription from the game between a refs need to be released to the teams and public within 24 hours. Absolute transparency is neexed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

At this point, what’s the real point in continuing with VAR at all? Before it’s inclusion in the game, we could yell at the screen, point at the replays and complain that your team got short-changed because an official made a mistake. Now, WITH VAR we’re doing the exact same thing, but with more stoppages

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Brighton are gonna have a tough game on their hands. Those refs are gonna be nice as hell to Liverpool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Is it Unacceptable this has happened? Yes completely, but lets not kid ourselves here, Liverpool as well as the other top clubs have had the rub off of the officiating referees these past years and VAR has smaller teams plenty of points as well. One team was relegated because goal line technology failed during a match. If they want the sue the refs etc up to them, but Spurs have no right to suffer any consequences due to poor officiating.Sort the system out but you need to take this one in the chin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The extent Liverpool is milking this is embarrassing. Yes this specific example is blatantly wrong but plenty of other teams have dropped points due to VAR.

But now that it's Klopp that's on the end of it we are never going to hear the end of it.

(Both the reds were valid as well btw).

Don't bother replying to me pool fans I'm notgoing to read it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yay maybe this will finally be the start of the EPL doing something about its disgraceful refereeing

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is genuinely embarrassing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Human error does not cut it when it happens all the time for every team. There are no excuses when you have access to replays from 10 different angles. Why are referees a protected species ? They earn 200k a year and are in the 1%. If Vice Presidents at companies make wrong decisions , they get sacked and lessons are learned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Klopp must be irritate with the club right now considering he told other managers they have other things to worry about when managers called the ref out after matches against his side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i just wonder if there would have been this much discussion if say chelsea or city faced what liverpool faced.

i think PL wouldnt care much and people would be completely okay and actively laughing if those teams lost.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Danny Murphy has said multiple times over the few months that they need to get ex-professional players into the VAR booths and I 100% agree.

We would see a significant reduction of ridiculous decisions being made.

Decision where we hear ex-professionals with thousands of games between agree the refs got it wrong...

Jones straight red is an example of this.

I've yet to hear any ex-professional player say this was straight red.

Unfortunately it is never going ro happen because the PGMOL will never let in outsiders in as it will show how bad they have become.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This will be interesting to see what avenues they can actually explore. Because 'sorry' doesn't give Liverpool anything. They lost 3 points. It is like someone apologising for shitting on your car. Like ok Darren but the shit is still there and you haven't offered to clean it up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We’ll probably get a point deduction for not just accepting their ‘apology’ and moving on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Isn’t it just truly beautiful how every football fan can put aside any rivalries and collectively hate the PGMOL

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

TLDR: we’re crying so hard now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I guess they are going to take action now. Wolves should also stake a claim from their match against Man United, as should Brentford with the penalty claim.

The technology is there to help make the correct decisions, it’s the incompetence and dare I say arrogance of referees that are affecting sporting results.

These points could have affected a team’s relegation survival chances, or even European and title chances. That’s a massive deal.

There needs to be proper accountability and transparency from the referees and until we see that, there will continue to be this lackadaisical approach.

Also, I don’t condone violence and abuse to referees, but they need to know that there’s a difference to criticism and verbal abuse. Referees are human beings too so I believe that opening the barrier of communication, transparency and cooperation will lead to lower abuse and disrespect towards them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good statement but don’t be surprised at all the “harsh” and “suspicious” decisions Liverpool now cop. The PGMOL boys club will make sure every debatable call goes against them now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Now this is my kind of statement.

Fingers crossed every club rallies behind this. We really can't let it continue like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Now this is my kind of statement.

Fingers crossed every club rallies behind this. We really can't let it continue like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is what I wanted. Escalate this shit. Fuck the pgmol and fuck these refs. Corrupt, insecure, and utterly useless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Holy shit Liverpool are embarrassing hahahahaha

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Great statement, bring the fire gents

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What about the other 14 or so times over the past two seasons where PGMOL have issued apologies?? Nothing changed. Nothing will change again and the season will keep going. Regardless of your club allegiance this will keep happening to all of us. Some we will profit by and some we will feel hard done by. Sad state of the game currently.

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