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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Learned about Lemmy from Reddit but never heard of kbin until recently. That said, I like the name Lemmy a lot more than the name kbin. kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE, not a Reddit alternative. I love the open source community, but sometimes the names of projects leave much to be desired. Lemmy isn't the perfect name but it's more memorable than kbin.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE

That's what I needed to hear today. genius

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Anyone who doesn't get this joke is not going to care about the difference.

[–] ImplyingImplications 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Speaking about names. What the hell is a "magazine"?? It's like the kbin devs went out of their way to ensure they named everything to be as confusing to outsiders as possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Kind of like how Lemmy made up communities? Lol you don’t call microblogs “toots” either. Seems every fediverse software has their own terminology.

Also it’s dev, singular. Kbin has been put together by only one dev. I personally find that damn impressive considering it’s functionally on par with Lemmy being only 2 months old to Lemmy’s 4 years.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Right? I also don't fully understand what Microblogs are on kbin?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

What the hell is a "magazine"??

It's the part of a gun you load the ammunition into, but that's not important right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Holy shit it all makes sense now! I’ve been seeing posts and comments randomly talking about magazines for ages now with absolutely no idea what any of them are going on about. Didn’t realise it was a Kbin thing. That’s one of the downsides of Federation I suppose, sometimes shit just gets weird.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I literally chose Lemmy instead of kbin because kbin sounds like a KDE app.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Really? Kbin as the name is what intrigued me initially over Lemmy. It’s actually inspired by Linux, the sbin directory to be specific.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes….on a technical level. But the picture is bigger than that. Personally, I have a hunch that the choice of Rust is making Lemmy’s development slower. This seemed to be evidenced by the fact that Kbin has as much if not more functionality than Lemmy while having only been around for 2 months vs Lemmy’s 4 years. The Kbin dev has also been much more able to fix things on the fly during the surge in users. Whereas Lemmy will supposedly move off websocket use any day now.

Adoptability isn’t something to be discounted. The fact that there are many more people out there familiar with PHP may give Kbin an edge over time. And let’s be honest, in real-world tests PHP can very often be faster then any less-than-mature-Rust codebase.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I was curious about Kbin until I read this comment.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I've tried both. Here are some thoughts.

  • I like the more sorting options by different time points like last 6 or 12 hours on Kbin.

  • Seems easier to find Lemmy subs on Kbin that it is to find Kbin subs on Lemmy.

  • I don't like that I can't see what Kbin defederates from like I can on Lemmy.

  • I'm wary of large instances on the fediverse because of stability and being a potential target for defederation due to size (such as mastodon social).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I just heard about Lemmy first. Maybe later I'll try kbin too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Started on lemmy. Haven’t gotten annoyed yet and can’t currently be bothered to try yet another new thing.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I liked both but ultimately joined Lemmy over kbin because it seems like there's more interest in building mobile apps for Lemmy. (Currently using Jerboa) Also like that my Lemmy instance is based on renewable energy which is nice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I'm in both, but I'm a Reddit refugee looking for a similar experience. 99% of my Reddit's time was through the RIF app and Jeroba looks and feels the same, so currently I only use lemmy.

I wouldn't mind switching over to kbin if it gets better in the future since I can read everything from anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I tried Kbin and its way harder for me somehow searching other federated instanced content on Kbin than on lemmy.

It feels like for Kbin you need to go first to lets say Lemmy.world and then check the list and copy the names of each then search it.

on any lemmy instance i can simply search the things and find stuff of other instances way easier.

also Lemmy is like WAY bigger of user base posts and comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The syntax is slightly different in Kbin: @community

Also, you need to do it from the all magazines search bar.

That made it work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like both. Currently on kbin because of the All bug on lemmy. My aim is to use both for a longer period.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Is that where the all section just constantly keeps loading more and more and more and you can't even use it because it's flying downwards?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I came to kbin first when reddit shut down the /r/kbinmigration sub. Streisand effect.

Later I learned it was an anti spam feature and not intentional, but the damage was done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What a difference, we can talk to each other :F

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Same. I’ve noticed that federation isn’t always complete so you may as well be in both, at least for now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Idk i just heard of lemmy first

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I have accounts on 3 Lemmy instances and this one on kbin, right now I use kbin a bit more cause it‘s smoother for me, but if Lemmy apps mature faster I might use those more.

I never really got that attached to any of my Reddit accounts either, so that feels natural to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago
  1. Rust > PHP
  2. At the moment, Lemmy is more stable & have workable Android Apps.
  3. People who can use software regardless of the creator's political belief/worldview tend to be more open-minded and rational than purist who choose software only built by those who has same worldview with them even when it was inferior or lacking many features than alternatives.
  4. People on Lemmy is diverse in their ideological/worldview, It makes conversation more interesting and less prone to be an echo chamber for one ideological believe.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

People started talking about the reddit API change and named lemmy as an alternative. So that's the one I checked out. Didn't here of kbin til I was already here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'd like to hear something about people who use both

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use both, I like kbin feed much more, lemmy takes a long time to update the feed (although a fix might be very close) other than that, I like the access to microblog platforms.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I found a specific Lemmy instance that I wanted to join. For what I use it for the format suits me better but if not for this instance I probably would've been on kbin just cuz it seems easier to interact with mastodon through it

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