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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My favorite one is when our utility company asks me to donate to help pay for people's utilities like they aren't raking in record amount of cash.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

First, please don't link to Reddit...

Many Of The Largest Charities In America Are Giant Money Making Scams
http://thetruthwins.com/archives/many-of-the-largest-charities-in-america-are-giant-money-making-scams

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Remember kids, they also get to use the money they guilted off of you to reduce their tax liability because they get credit for donating your money!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is not true. I am not from the US or a lawyer but these donations sould show up on your receipt and count as your direct donation to the charity. The store is just a middleman and does not get any benefit. Here is a random, semi recent article about it you can find a lot more if you look it up online.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They do not, at least in the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

It depends on exactly what the store is doing.

If the store is representing the extra charge as a donation to a specific charity, generally, the customer can deduct that.

If it's far more vague, like, "Give $10 to help poor kids in Africa" the ultimate destination for the funds could be the company's own ledgers, which it would then use for its own charitable activities and collect the tax deduction, as long as they "help poor kids in Africa."

And some stores are just lying. CVS, for instance, was sued as part of a class action suit when, after the company pledges $10 million to the American Diabetes Association, then collected money from customers to fund that pledge.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those charities have huge overhead. Very little money goes to the actual cause.

[–] someguy3 4 points 2 years ago

There are sites to check how much actually goes out. Check before you donate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or just...donate the perfectly good food they constantly throw out into the cadged dumpsters designed to keep homeless people out... Litteraly would cost them nothing...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

"But if we feed them then those broke homeless people won't come in and spend their (nonexistent) money on our food!" -upper management

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Those donations you make can help them deduct from taxes, right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Yes, which is why you should donate yourself if you are inclined to do so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think that's a myth as it isn't income it goes into a separate fund to transfer 1:1.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Just wait until you get a tip prompt on a self checkout kiosk...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

And redirecting you attention on to the "offsets" scam too.

Ever wonder why climate change is such a problem if 1.5 pence per liter petroleum burnt can undo the damage? Spoiler: it can't. You can't sequester CO² for that cheap, and CO² isn't the only issue. "Offsets" are not certified by any trustworthy third party, and companies intentionally don't pry too much, so they can say "Oh sorry, didn't know" if anyone investigates and discovers they did squat-all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I hate these donate screens because I have no idea where the donation actually goes and i don't want to have to do a ton of research at the grocery checkout about whether its a good charity.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How bout the fact if they achieved their goals, they wouldn't have a problem to have a charity for and thats a bigger concern to them. They'd rather not help people than not exist. They may as well just pretend they are the poor people their campaigning for. Or be technically homeless and donate to themselves while living in charity(company) owned residence

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Nah the charities are usually legit. But the companies aren't doing it out of the goodness of their heart, it's a massive tax write off as well as free PR.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I hate when any company I'm buying something from does this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I just say no

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Just FYI this is a sort of scam. ~~The company donates the money on your behalf and they get the tax write-off for your donation while also appearing philanthropic for PR purposes~~. that's why they do it.

EDIT: US companies cannot do this in the US you can claim up to $300 on taxes. This is legit in the US.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@zombuey I've heard that a lot, but it is apparently not true unless the company claims your donation as a profit and then writes it off, which negates any tax benefit. I think it's more just a PR thing to make you feel good about that company while using your own money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

They cannot claim it as profit if they are following the law.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It's still fine.

Some big international store in europe is asking to buy food from them for full price and donate it to food bank. Fuckin hilarious for making profit on charity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

People that give money for those charities are giving those companies free tax write offs.

You donate $10 or whatever. The company can then claim that $10 as a write off via donation to that charity. Campaign as a whole (either regional or national) collects $1M USD. Corporate accountants write off donation. Tax liability reduced.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

No, that's not how it works. In order to do so, they'd have to first claim the money received as income.

That said, there are scummy things that they do. At the least, it's saying "we [bigcorp] donated $1,000,000 to charity" when in reality all that they did was collect it. In other situations, companies like Sobey's doesn't actually pass on food bank donations as cash, but rather have then as credit to buy products only from Sobey's.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's not how tax write offs work. The only way to claim that money in a write-off would be for the business to also claim it as revenue. That would even out, with no tax savings. Businesses also don't handle donations that way, they usually serve as a collection agent that just passes your donations on without being able to claim it towards their revenue or their tax write offs. The only person who can write-off their donation is the person who actually made it.

The reason businesses do it is for marketing. They get to put out a press release saying "They helped donate $10 million to puppies without borders."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

That’s not how tax write offs work

Jerry: So we're gonna make the Post Office pay for my new stereo now?

Kramer: It's a write-off for them.

Jerry: How is it a write-off?

Kramer: They just write it off.

Jerry: Write it off what?

Kramer: Jerry, all these big companies, they write off everything.

Jerry: You don't even know what a write-off is.

Kramer: Do you?

Jerry: No, I don't.

Kramer: But they do. And they're the ones writing it off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Puppies do not recognize your silly imaginary borders and will commit zoomies across any such lines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

They wouldn't be rich if they donated THEIR money, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I hate when they pull this shit at drive through fast food. “Would you like to round up to donate to our charity?”

Who knows what the person taking my order thinks about this charity, and what they might do to someone’s food who says no.

Edit: The fact that merely implying a fast food worker wouldn’t be a complete perfect human being gets so many downvotes says a whole lot about this community.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I can assure you that nobody working at the fast food restaurant gives a shit if you donate to charity.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bad example, grocery stores usually have small margins and aren't making a lot of money off of you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Hard to believe this when our supermarket giants (Coles, Woolworths) are posting record billions in profits.

They aren't 'hard done by'. They make money hand over fist.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Then they will say it is more efficient to merge the donations with regular revenue and make bulk donations every quarter or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And I will never ever give these fools my actual phone number for discounts. Just use any area code w/ 867-5309 to get around this.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's so they can get a tax write off for your donation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

This is a lie that I had hoped to leave behind on Reddit but lo and behold it's so pervasive that it transcends social circles.

Repeat after me: that is not how taxes work.

They do not get any monetary benefit from your donations, save for arguably good publicity. They do not claim your donations in their taxes. They do not get extra write offs on their taxes.

Those donations are yours and you could claim them on your taxes, if you were so inclined.

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