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My Huawei phone still seems to run on Android (according to the kernel version). Does anyone know more details when this will be available?
I havent seen more than a list of eligible devices and a general timeframe like the above article describes.
Some sources stated that it's only for the ALS models (Chinese) and that others arent getting the update due to not being sold in China. I'd assume that someone will find a way to opt-in early on said devices (maybe through their desktop update tool or changing regions) but I couldnt locate a nice list with dates and models for outside of China.
The closest I've seen is this one:
https://www.huaweiupdate.com/harmonyos-2-0-eligible-devices-updates-news-and-more-june-04-2021/
Thanks, looks like I will have to wait a while longer.
Existing models before the Huawei ban won't face any issues. They will still run android.
Why do you think that the upgrade will cause issues?
Not about the harmony OS but about android support on Huawei mobiles. I meant that people will still be able to use Android without any issues on existing huawei models.
Afaik Harmony OS is just a fork of Android, not like they rewrote it from scratch (that would take a lot more time).
I have been a supporter (not fanboy) of Huawei, but let me be honest, HarmonyOS is not exactly a new OS, as in the thing replacing Android here. It is still AOSP based, but they are calling multiple things HarmonyOS here, one being the distributed ecosystem, other being the microkernel for TVs and other devices.
I have been following this whole tirade since before the first developer kit for HongmengOS leaked on GizmoChina.
On one hand I think Huawei is misrepresenting what they are doing for phones, while on the other hand this whole thing is going beyond the integration of Apple's device ecosystem. I am interested, either way, but a more truthful PR for masses would have gained them more success.
I still remember this getting leaked on June 13, 2019 on 4Chan
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atleast there will be three monopolies now
At least Huawei is a worker owned cooperative.
Wait is it actually? That would probably make it the biggest co-op in the world.
Holy shit that's awesome!
This has been disputed though. Their own marketing material is perhaps not a good source alone.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/25/technology/who-owns-huawei.html
It's not really disputed, and the article is just trying to throw shade. For example, this gem:
Huawei’s ownership is a murky matter because the company has never, in more than three decades of existence, sold shares to the public.
It's like they don't understand the concept of a cooperative? If a company sells public shares then it's owned by share holders.
Also, painting the fact that Huawei works with the government as being outlandish is also hilarious. Every US tech company works with US government and gets massive government subsidies.
In fact, if the government exercises some control over the company that's actually a very good thing.
New York Times calling Huawei bad is like Global Times calling Apple bad. Can we agree this is not disputed?
Did you read the article? They're not calling Huawei bad, they're just highlighting the differences between what a "share" means in China and what it means in the western world.
Sharing profits with the employees is definitely a good idea at least morally and I would guess that it's pretty great as an incentive too. But do they actually own the company? Could they fire the founder (currently deputy Chairman) Ren Zhengfei who nominally owns only 1% of the company?
What if they could? And why would they need to, when Ren's leadership is clearly top notch for coworker employees?
Clearly top notch? How would you know that? Honestly asking.
Huawei has not died off amidst a total lack of chip foundry supplies, and its business is going well. Even countries that face sanctions from USA have a hard time struggling.
can we agree that monopolies are still a bad thing for consumers?
Sure, although Huawei hasn't really monopolized the market as far as I know and there is a vibrant market of different companies.
they're building an ecosystem, I assume it means something like apple's ecosystem which is just a pretty prison. Huawei may implement it differently, but in genral it's not a good sign when a company tries to do it. and things like not having an official method of unlocking the bootloader gives me the feeling that they're not going to have an open ecosystem.
now don't get me wrong, the fact that they're trying to distance themselves from google is a good thing, but if it means another colsed environment where it's in company's interest to imprison end users, then it is terrible.
As far as I know HarmonyOS is based on AOSP, so I would actually expect the core technology to stay open. I'd like to see what they actually do with it before passing judgement.