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"So the billionaires’ families are gonna get billed for all of this like the time my family got billed for my ambulance ride, right? Right?" (cutie.city)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Tbf if its proven the titan wasn't up to regulation it should 100% be the company that build the sub that needs to be held accountable. If not the bill should go to whatever got the rescue people involved. Then the insurance that covered such exotic and dangerous ride. (Just like i had insurance when i went to see the pyramids). If its not any above the above than it means the passengers took 100% responsibility and the families should pay up.

Hundereds of immigrants died this week on a ship, no one gave a fuck. Not a penny spend.

I am hoping someone more informed then me can do a comparison how long we could provide shelter and food to those immigrants with that amount of spend money. The internet cant enforce fair economic treatment between the classes but we can call out the hypocrisy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There was already an article that basically said they will be immune from any lawsuits. They operated in international waters outside the scope of any laws or regulations on how the submersible needed to be rated. I hope they can find grounds to sue them and kill the company, maybe they will be open to civil lawsuits?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The submersible was a boat on a ship the ship.may be bound by imo or it's flag star rules. I work in maritime software. regulation around Solas and imo rules are mental I mean we only moved ships off xp in last few years as the xp for embedded systems had been thoroughly tested and type approved, e.g. two 90day test runs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Huh, interesting. Then what is the actual point of the liability waivers they had to sign?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

There's nobody to sue. The CEO is dead. Oceangate is a bankrupt company with no assets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Pretty sure coast guard did step in to help the ship, but the ship was hiding from authority. Once the call went up because was there. Like the RNLI rescue small boats in English channel. (Somthing some.idiots on the right are claiming is reason not to give to the charity)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As far as I know, there were no regulations the submersible company were obligated to follow, so the families of the billionaires, who signed waivers informing them of that fact, should be held accountable as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

"there were no regulations" In therms of building a specialized craft to take people to a landmark icon of history on the bottom of the ocean is the most disconnected elitism thing i have ever read. I can't even jump in the ocean in the sea whenever/wherever i want because of regulations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I wish. But what I know of the current affair of things, I can only hypothesize two outcomes:

The benefit after the costs of potential rescue, and now the discovery of 5 recognizable pieces of the craft, will be a learning moment and there will be more regulation of deep sea diving for tourism in the near future. And the families of the victims will say that's enough and probably name the legislation after one, or a few of the victims.
The family of the victims will make sure OceanGate will never build another deep sea vessel ever again. This one will depend on the legal logistics. Just like how some airlines caused airliner crashes due to pure negligence, some of the first-class families weren't able to sue them into non-existence due to international airspace and/or waters protections.

Because either of those two things are what typically happens in such a scenario. At least lately.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

what about the boat in greece that sunk?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Who do you think pays when governments bail out large private corporations?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Christ, this comment section is almost 100% reactionary.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The company will get billed. Yes.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

I mean they probably will. It's just that the families have so much money it'll be like a drop in the bucket for them. ¯\(ツ)/¯

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