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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago (1 children)

It's not a bug in the kernel, the bug is in polkit. If you don't have polkit installed you are fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

@[email protected] this is true, please fix the title.

If you don’t have polkit installed you are fine.

Which distributions have polkit installed by default? Which applications need polkit? Do you have polkit installed?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

Which distributions have polkit installed by default?

Most that come with a desktop environment. (idk if the non-systemd versions are vulnerable though)

Which applications need polkit?

If you get a password prompt when a program needs higher privileges it most likely uses polkit.

Do you have polkit installed?

Nope, I just couldn't get it to work :D It's pretty annoying because some programs don't work without it, but most of the time you shouldn't be running those anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

If you get a password prompt when a program needs higher privileges it most likely uses polkit.

Or gksudo, those were the times…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

Windows users: see, Linux is shit, they have 7y old root exploits!

Yes. And they were found. Partly because it's Open Source Software.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

systemd is a bloated mess. Don't ever use it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

How is it bloated? Most people saying it's bloated don't even know what they say. Does it have many SLOC? Is it slow? Does it do too much? If the latter, why is it bloat and do you know it's actually quite modular? What exactly is software bloat for you?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

Systemd is supposed to be simply an init system. It does way too much than its function. It's also produced by a corporation, Red Hat, so we can be sure this creeping feature of systemd is by design. I use OpenRC, and I actually feel my laptop doesn't hang like when I used systemd and it initializes faster as well.

Systemd also launches updates constantly, rarely because of security, and ot updates so fast that it's hard to track the changes in the software and audit what the software is doing with our computers.

The billionaire corporation Red Hat "donates" to Desktops like GNOME (see their supporters) with one of the conditions being that they use their software. The creeping design of systemd locks desktops into their ecosystem because there are no alternatives for an init system with so many functions, because an init system shouldn't do what systemd does in the first place. And since systemd dominates the market further and further (Sep 2020, KDE adopted systemd as well), there seems to be no solution for that. Most software are developed with systemd in mind. I've seen way too many applications developed with systemd in mind and depending on systemd software. This is locking the user in their ecosystem.

I understand people doubt me, but my experience with OpenRC showed me how an init system is supposed to be designed. And Red Hat is a profit machine, so I wonder if systemd isn't doing some creepy stuff on your computer. At least my computer doesn't hang and crash as much as when I used systemd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Hm, sadly the same arguments as all the other systemd haters have. Nothing new. Read this:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190306213420/https://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/