Soccer (Closing)

Are some peoples bones made out of cardboard in this thread? Might sprain your ankle if you are unlucky but no one is breaking their shin or ankle from that.

It was not on purpose but it was really bad

Idiots in this thread, never been to a game in their life claiming it’s not a red 😂😂

Dont like that red at all, just trying to shield the ball

This is one of those letter of the law pitfalls. Clearly not intentional but could be dangerous none the less. Sometime when two players are going for a ball one will be late and deliver an unintentional stamp.

anyone that says that isnt a red (regardless of intent) is genuinely insane

Ouch. Looks painful in freeze frame.

I cousin called complaining saying his team got a farcical red card. Watching this, how does he even complain, Rashford just no awareness where feets and ankles are

Wasn’t intentional but it’s still a red.

it hurts to watch it.

Wasnt his intend but i agree to show red.

Tried to protect the ball and completely missed. Horrible contact with his leg. Clear red

Not in a million years.

Fuck it looks completely accidental but Jesus Christ that ankle should not be bent like that

Wait people think this is a fair card??? nah this is a shocking one

Never a red. Yellow at most. He's shielding the ball and doesn't look like he knows he's going to make contact, especially in that spot on the lad's ankle, even more so in the heat of the moment full speed.

"A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.

Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play."

Law 12

People forgot they were watching a Manchester United game

Not intentional but looks awful, hard to argue. Could have caused serious injury.

Straight red. Absolute correct there.

Wow we're not safe even in the UCL. That'll open the game up.

By the rules of the game this is a red. 100% excessive force used even if unintentional

His out of form rn . He hasn't done anything in this season

Can incidental contact like this be a red card?

This is just ridiculous

Knew that scoring 2 goals had to have a downside

No intent and he was in control. Seems harsh to me.

That's a controversial call if it's any other club

Man Utd have had sooooo many bad calls against them this year. It is tough to watch.

United get all the decisions sure

Will his suspension carry over into the Europa League?

I don't really understand how he gets a red card for defending the ball when somebody else dives in for a tackle

Reds like this are the stupidest thing ever, you're sent off for being unlucky... Might as well roll a lottery wheel before the game and send off random people... He was already stepping before the Copenhagen player stuck his foot there, what can he do? Sure it might be a red by the rules, but maybe we haven't figured out the rules.

Clearly no intent there but that has to be given

According to the rulebook this is a clear red.

You can't blame the ref or var for this, they followed the rules correctly.

If you don't think it's a red, then you just don't like the rules of the sport.

The fact this sub is agreeing it’s a harsh decision just confirms that Savage is an absolute tool.

Not malicious, not deliberate. He's eyes fixated on the ball (where feet will be). Slow mo making it look worse.

Orange for me.

Unintentional but dangerous and looks painful. Red card all day these days.

This is one of those where I don't think there's any intention on Rashford's part, but it is a red. If he doesn't put his foot out so far then the contact is nowhere near as severe.

Seems like this kind of contact has pretty consistently been a red card this season. Obviously he doesn't do it intentionally but he still catches the guy in a dangerous manner.

This is just a dumb red imo. The only leg you have to stand on is that he steps on the guys ankle but there’s literally nothing in this. He is simply taking a step to shield the ball and the other play sticks his foot out right where he’s stepping. Is Rashford supposed to drag his feet along the floor to get where he’s trying to go? This is normal shit that happens in the game. Stop punishing players for freak occurrences and focus on what cards are for, dangerous plays. Nothing about this was dangerous, just unfortunate timing by both players.

If the letter of the law says this is a red, the letter of the law should be changed.

Not a red

I don’t understand how there is an argument against this red card

I’m clearly becoming more and more out of touch because that’s never a red, but I’m seeing a pretty even split of opinions. Just wow. Shielding the ball. What’s next, players slides you while you’re running normally and if you step on him then it’s a red.

This has to be one of the most benign maneuvers I’ve ever seen given a red.

That’s a red by the laws of the game but here’s my question: When they examine elbow-related reds, they always look for intent, player looking at opponent vs the ball. Why not apply the same logic to a situation like this? There’s obviously no intent there, it makes no sense.

This sub makes me go insane sometimes.

It seems you have to break a bone for it to be a red card, and even then I’m sure half the sub would argue it’s not because it was an accident.

Is everyone posting here like ten years old or just happen to have short memories?

The suggestion that this is somehow a new approach by refs is way off the mark. As a refresher, here's Ronaldinho's red card in the Quarter Final of the 2002 World Cup against England (which was less dangerous than Rashford's tackle here- Ronaldinho scrapes the shin of his opponent whereas Rashford could easily have broken his opponent's leg) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GckBqFP120s

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By the way, I think Rashford is one of the true good guys in the game. Feel genuinely sad that he's going to now have a torrent of abuse from knuckle draggers who have the mental maturity of a five year old on a sugar rush.

Owen Hargreaves thought this wasn’t a red “in a million years”. I worry what he saw, perhaps he should pay a visit to Specsavers.

I dont know man, do we give red cards for unfortunate clashes now. It was not a tackle, not reckless not out of control.

Seems ridiculous to be a red card.

In no world is that a red to anyone who has actually kicked a ball before.

I think the current application of rules is very fucked up in that they judge a player by the outcome, not their intent, nor even a "reasonably foreseeable consequence" of their action.

Havertz was a red card all day long for me, it's an incredibly dangerous, out of control tackle, off the ground, plenty of force, that's going to break someone's leg but he gets lucky and doesn't make much contact, so they give a yellow, even though it's blatantly dangerous. Rashford tries to shield the ball and a leg appears under him and it's a red. It's not some outrageously dangerous action, if he doesn't make contact, and it's not even a foul, whereas the Havertz one should be a red regardless of contact, IMO.

We now punish dangerous tackles and unfortunate accidents identically. It was a red card in 2023, but it shouldn't be, IMO.

Disclaimer: I don't have a hard on for punishing Havertz in particular, it was just the most recent "dangerous tackle" let off that stuck in my head