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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Of course it won't be available for us here in the US.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately we need to force companies to do the right thing. And we should.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it’s not in the US, I fear developers won’t take it seriously and we probably won’t get many good sideloadable apps anyway

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just want to sideload YouTube revanced and a couple of other apps. This is the only reason why I have an android.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair you can already do it for YouTube with uYou and AltStore, it won’t be as seamless as on Android but it’s possible :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've heard about this Altsrote thing and I've been meaning to check it out. Does it allow apps to be installed permanent, or do I have to verify every week like the other ones?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You need to verify every week, but it’s automatic as long as your computer is on during the verification

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ignited (or Delta) too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And worse, development for other sideloading apps may slow down.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm getting tired of all of Google's BS, so I've been looking into an iPhone.

But not being able to sideload apps is a big deterrent. Not having real Firefox is another one.

If Apple could open up iOS to be more flexible and user-configurable, they could probably draw a lot of Android users like myself that appreciate the great hardware and are tired of Google's business decisions.

But iOS is still dumbed down and locked down so badly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Apple being Apple, will charge some absurd fee to "sign" images to sideload on your iPhone. I wouldn't hold my breath. Get GrapheneOS on a Pixel in the meantime.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You can already do that with zero fees. The only issue is you have to redeploy the app after a week. That’s how AltStore works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You can already side load 3 apps for free on the iPhone but they need to be re-signed every 7 days. There are apps like SideStore that manage re-signing apps for you at the cost of one app slot.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I second that suggestion, just install GrapheneOS. I switched from my iPhone to GOS over 6 months ago and haven't looked back. It syncs with nextcloud for everything and it's seamless!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What has Google done that Apple hasn't?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm about to receive my first iPhone, since the 4, on Monday, because of all the same reasons. I used to love Android platforms, because they allowed me to do whatever the fuck I wanted. Now I can't even unlock my bootloader, at all. Even if I could, each of the vendors came up with a solution to permanently softbrick your phone in some way.

The only custom app I really want at the moment is modded Youtube, and having Altserver running isn't really an issue. That said, if I didn't need to do that at all, that would be fantastic

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You can try Yattee for YouTube. It’s in the AppStore, you just need to give it an invidious or piped instance to connect to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I recently switched to iPhone from pixel and am very happy. However, I understand the need to sideload apps, haven’t watched YouTube at all on the iPhone because of the annoying ads.

I’m hoping that iOS allows installing apps from other sources soon, would also love to use the real FF.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, I’ve been using uYou on iOS since I got the iPhone two years ago. It’s a bit of a pain to set up initially, but assuming you have a PC or laptop that is switched on often enough and on the same WiFi network, running iTunes and AltStore, it will auto refresh in the background.

It has sponsorblock and all that good stuff too. Normal YouTube is literally unwatchable.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sweet lord my mouth is watering.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Well, they make it much harder for right to repair, Just following from what Louis Rossmann points out.

Might as well hand out some crumbs here and there...

A small win is a small win, even if forced by EU. Similar to the USB-C port change.

At the same time, Apple will also appeal to the European Union about including the App Store in the Digital Markets Act, which is no surprise. Apple will likely try everything to preserve the iOS App Store. But ultimately, iOS 17 will be ready for sideloading.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hello from Poland! Just waiting here to finally have opportunity to install emulators without Alt Store 7 day refresh and limit of 3 apps only! Very sad, if you, guys from USA, will not be allowed to use this feature.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can‘t wait for Delta Emulator. I had to deinstall it because of the three app limit and before Reddit made those stupid API changes I had uYouPlus and Delta. Now I have uYouPlus and Apollo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can sideload Apollo? :o

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, there is a modded version which works with your own API key. https://balackburn.github.io/Apollo/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool. Can we do the same with AppleTV please!?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What app is everyone dying to get?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd like a true Firefox(not webkit) and Emulators.

[–] PuddingFeeling907 3 points 1 year ago

Yes! We need all those extensions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Emulators are what I miss from android. GBA has one of the best libraries of any console, plus there’s the custom rom scene. And I have this absurdly powerful phone that can’t run any of it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The option will allow an entire community of open source apps to exist for example.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

F-Droid in iOS 😎

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fucking finally

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

For me revanced for example, also a non-WebKit browser.

Especially if the EU passes article 45, I will have to install my own browser to remove the spying capabilities article 45 would impose.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

uyouplus, Apollo, BHTwitter

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I won't use a smartphone that can't run Tachiyomi. There's no better manga app, in any platform, ever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

there is another good alternative called aidoku for iOS and we can read manga on similar fashion. But, we need to sideload it

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