Did they get tired of bumping chests?
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This isn't about egos, but about existential threats. As climate change grows deserts in China, food will become scarce. This will push China up onto it's neighbors -- and beyond. Unless they invest massively in indoor farming. But it's terrifying to see them do everything but.
I was mostly joking. They have apparently been using unarmed chests bumping to assert disputed borders. I gotta hand it to them, it's a great way to avoid violence, but it sounds rather comedic.
Oh? I recall they were arming up with medieval polearms, after incidents with pipes and chains. Anything short firearms to literally avoid the accusation of "they shot first." But it is violence. Border guards on both sides have died, at this point, if I recall correctly.
From a quick look around the Internet, it sounds like my impression was outdated. Apparently around September 2020, China started carrying some outdated weapons. There was also a clash that got very lethal a while ago. However, the intent still is to keep the conflict low key and not let it spiral out of control over some marginal land.
Anybody that thought we would have a war, it is such surface level thinking. Both would be left limping eternally if it ever materialised, gifting West the world order monopoly for few more centuries.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that both India and China have far more to gain from cooperation than from conflict. Russia has great relations with both and will likely act as a bridge to bring them together.
Anglos like to pit us against China because they know very well that without our cooperation in the East, Asia cannot become the true polar hegemon. Pentagon is working day and night right now, dripping in sweat.
US geopolitical incompetence is forcing India to choose a side now. US went after Russia with sanctions, and when they realized that India wasn't going to follow they started threatening both with more sanctions. This clearly tells India that US sees it as a puppet that it can dictate foreign policy to, and that using dollar as a reserve currency is not safe.
The choice between aligning with a dying power that's becoming increasingly belligerent or a rising one that acts rationally and predictably is an easy one. China and India may disagree on lots of things, but two rational actors can work together towards mutual benefit.
There is another angle to it. China always prevents India from becoming a veto state in UN, and so India has to see that after decoupling from USA/West hegemon, they do not become a consumer market economy tool for China. This is essential when you look at the dynamics between India-Russia, Russia-China and China-India. All 3 differ subtly. On the other hand, India and China vote same on issues in UN 80% of the times.
One thing between all this is clear though, India will decouple with West at some point. It is a question of when, not if.
Yeah that's an excellent observation as well.